It’s more like blackmail tbh. “Pay or i’ll track the shit out of you and sell the data to advertisers”. I can see why people are put off, and I am also. And what’s the guarantee if we pay that the data isn’t collected and sold anyway?
That’s totally reasonable from the point of view of a developer who has to earn something to live. I mean you still have the choice to not use it. The internet simply works through user tracking and advertising
I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That’s a unnecessary accusation.
If the dev tells you “information gathering is deactivated for users who pay.” you won’t believe them, you’ll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won’t do because their app isn’t open source and you’ll conclude that because they won’t prove it then we should just assume that they do.
That’s JAQing off and that’s exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don’t accuse directly, you’re Just Asking Questions.
You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads
There’s a difference between “There’s a lot tracking happening if you don’t pay!” and “What’s the guarantee you don’t track us if we pay?” and that difference comes in the form of a hat… Made of tinfoil…
It’s more like blackmail tbh. “Pay or i’ll track the shit out of you and sell the data to advertisers”. I can see why people are put off, and I am also. And what’s the guarantee if we pay that the data isn’t collected and sold anyway?
That’s totally reasonable from the point of view of a developer who has to earn something to live. I mean you still have the choice to not use it. The internet simply works through user tracking and advertising
I’ve seen a lot of websites do the same thing. Either allow cookies or pay
Gawd, tinfoil hats are in right now!
How’s it tinfoil hat? It’s very clear how much tracking is going on if you don’t subscribe. None of this stuff is made up.
I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That’s a unnecessary accusation.
My last part was a question, not an accusation.
We call that JAQing off and it’s never just a question.
“They don’t answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don’t have proof of it.”
Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics.
“I’m just asking questions here” Tucker Carlson Vibes
Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to.
If the dev tells you “information gathering is deactivated for users who pay.” you won’t believe them, you’ll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won’t do because their app isn’t open source and you’ll conclude that because they won’t prove it then we should just assume that they do.
That’s JAQing off and that’s exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don’t accuse directly, you’re Just Asking Questions.
People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn’t load the module at all if you have ads disabled.
You’re really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time.
Then don’t use it if that bothers you. It’s not blackmail lol
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You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads
So many options
Plenty of options for people with plenty of money.
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Web version is free. That’s how I browse Lemmy and it’s ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though.
The point is it’s all open, choose something and enjoy
There’s also ‘don’t use it’, which is a perfectly valid option.
There’s a difference between “There’s a lot tracking happening if you don’t pay!” and “What’s the guarantee you don’t track us if we pay?” and that difference comes in the form of a hat… Made of tinfoil…
Notice how it was a question? See this ‘?’