The measure received 14 votes in favour, with the US the sole member to reject it. However, because the US is a permanent member of the council, it has the ability to veto any resolution brought forward

Unlike several previous resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza, Wednesday’s measure was brought forward by all 10 elected members of the Security Council.

The US has vetoed four previous attempts at calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, on most occasions being the lone vote against the measures.

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    As somebody actually living in “Israel” what the hell are you talking about? Bibi and other far right politicians want to occupy Palestine and genocide every Palestinian. I wonder what would happen if the “good” Israeli soldiers stopped massacring civilians or if Bibi offered the Palestinian people anything other then oppression.

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      So, if you’re living in “Israel” aren’t you actively part of the “genocide” that you’re describing?

      The Palestinians are just as responsible for putting shitheads like Sinwar in power as the Israelis are responsible for putting shitheads like Netanyahu in power. Both groups of people have empowered the genocidal extremist warmongers at every opportunity, and y’all want to blame American politicians for the sad state of the nations that were handed to you on a silver platter by the League of Nations after the fall of the Ottoman Empire?

      As someone actually living in “The United States of America”, I’m sick and tired of my democracy and tax dollars being held hostage because of your problems, and I ain’t the only one.

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        As an American, aren’t you actively part of Trumps attacks on minorities?

        Can I blame you for the “war on terror” and every other American crime against humanity?

        If no, why is this person to blame for Israel? If yes, well at least you’re consistent.

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          It was a rhetorical question.

          IF one believes that Israel has no right to exist as a nation (anti-zionists) and that the land was stolen from the Palestinians (which, historically speaking isn’t even true, because there was never a unified Palestinian nation until the Mandate for Palestine), then logic simply follows that by living in that “occupied Palestinian land” you are “an occupier”, does it not?

          Your specific analogies to that are bad, because you can live in America without participating in Trump’s policies or the “war on terror”.

          A better American analogy would be to say that everyone who lives in America is complicit in benefiting from the genocide of the Native Americans, whose historically inhabited these lands. And in that case, yes, we Americans are just as guilty as benefiting from the actual genocide of the Native Americans to the hypothetical “genocide” of the Palestinians.

          In other words, IF one believes that Americans are unjustly living on occupied Native American lands, then I am guilty of that, just as all Americans are. That’s not a political statement, it’s a logical one.

          And yet, you don’t hear anyone sane calling for the entirety of the United States to be returned to the Native Americans, because history doesn’t work that way. The best Americans and Native Americans can hope for today is peaceful coexistence, equal treatment under the law, and a mutually beneficial society that acknowledges the wrongs of the past while working towards a better shared future.

          Personally I believe in a peaceful two-state solution in which both Israel and Palestine can not just exist, but thrive harmoniously as neighbors destined to live in the same culturally and religiously significant slice of land. But unfortunately the people currently in charge, like Netanyahu and Hamas, do not think that way, and under Trump I believe there will be an unmitigated, scorched earth, full-fat genocide of Gaza Strip and probably the West Bank too.

          There have always been pathways to peace, but they rely on the good faith actions of Israel and Palestine far more than anyone else.

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      The Palestinian resistance will never stop until they get all the land

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          Yeah when they started killing civilians in an effort to tank the Oslo Accords

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          What does “Palestine will be free from the river to the sea” mean to you?

          Any agreement from the Israelis or Palestinians isn’t worth its weight in shit.

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              It doesn’t matter who it was started by or whether the resultant state was democratic or secular, as it is an open proclamation of an intent to wipe Israel off the map. It doesn’t take a geography expert to point out that all of Israel exists between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, does it?

              You cannot claim to be anti-genocide if you support wiping Israel off the map.

              You cannot claim to support a two-state solution if you support wiping Israel off the map.

              Any one-state solution amounts to genocide of the other state, fucking duh.

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              I wonder if you actually read that article?

              jk, it’s clear you didn’t

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                  Lol, your entire article is about how they only accept a Palestinian state, not an Israeli one

                  Here’s the funniest quote:

                  But it does not go as far as to fully recognise Israel and says Hamas does not relinquish its goal of “liberating all of Palestine”.

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                    Why would they recognize Israel before Israel accepts a two-state solution? What did the PA get in return for recognizing Israel?

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              What makes it their land in the first place, some British mandate written by the same people who created the state of Israel?

              100 years ago the entire area was part of the Ottoman Empire, both nations of Israel and Palestine are fabrications.

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                The fact that they were living there, as their families have been for generations and generations. What gives Zionists the right to ethnically cleanse and forcibly displace them from their homes?

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                  You keep posting these propaganda images every day, is it your job or just a hobby?

                  At any rate, all your image shows is that there was never a Palestinian nation state to begin with. So again, the question remains “what makes it Palestinian land in the first place?”

                  By your own admission, this region (home to both the original Israelites, Judea, Hebrews, Philistines, and dozens of other nomadic tribes) has been passed around by empire to empire for thousands of years.

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                    I believe everybody deserves to live a comfortable life. I hate seeing disinformation or bigotry that’s used to justify the extermination of a people or normalize their lives under generations of occupation and Apartheid.

                    Palestinians have been a people for thousands of years. Recent Palestinian Nationalism is an anti-colonialist movement. They were not an explicit nation-state because there was no need before. That in no way justifies ethnic cleansing. If you want the full story, this book covers the four thousand years of history.

                    First documented in the late Bronze Age, about 3200 years ago, the name Palestine, is the conventional name used between 450 BC and 1948 AD to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River and various adjoining lands. This work explores the evolution of the concept, histories, identity, languages and cultures of Palestine from the Late Bronze Age to the modern era.

                    Moreover, Palestine history is often taught in the West as a history of a land, not as Palestinian history or a history of a people. This book challenges colonial approach to Palestine and the pernicious myth of a land without a people (Masalha 1992, 1997) and argues for reading the history of Palestine with the eyes of the indigenous people of Palestine.

                    The Palestinians are the indigenous people of Palestine; their local roots are deeply embedded in the soil of Palestine and their autochthonous identity and historical heritage long preceded the emergence of a local Palestinian nascent national movement in the late Ottoman period and the advent of Zionist settler-colonialism before the First World War

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                    You have to rely on the word nation-state to make your case. A western invented term needed because the West split up a great empire into small pieces.

                    The argument is like saying “well Washington was never a country.”

                    Furthermore your argument is especially stupid because the Zionists literally said they were going to colonize Palestine.

                    June 20, 1899 CONFERENCE OF ZIONISTS; Elect Delegates at Their Meeting in Baltimore. WILL COLONIZE PALESTINE