i think the creator of this meme (not me if that wasn’t obvious) made a mistake in that it was actually L who was coded to be white:
When asked about L’s ethnicity, creator of the series Tsugumi Ohba responded, “I think of him as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian, a quarter French or Italian, like that.” fandom
Okay I’m too lazy to Google it right now so feel free to completely ignore this, but would you happen to have a tldr on Japan’s ethnic groups? Or a link to a good and hopefully concise source?
As for colorism, the culture trends conservative. I don’t mean strictly politically, which it probably does too, but as in don’t act out and stick with traditional values. Due to that, white skin is generally considered better looking and proper, and there is a negative stereotype for darker skin.
They are similar to S Korea like this, and there is a sort of blatant implied racism towards dark skinned and especially black people in the culture. There is of course some fetishizing of dark skin too, but mainly in a fling but don’t settle down kind of way.
Some younger people are of course bucking some of these trends, and I’m not quite up to date as stuff in my own country, but it’s definitely still there. There are people who have given personal experiences, some positive, some definitely not.
who said they weren’t obvious? it’s called framing. applying a political lense to a fictional character’s traits and coming to a conclusion within the political framework.
literally no one is saying these observations haven’t been picked up on or that the character is meant to be liked.
no hate to you individally but, as a pattern, these anti-intellectual comments do make me sad. it’s like picking up simone de beauvoir and saying “duh i already knew women were historically oppressed.” the point isn’t already knowing. it’s about intellectual growth from the process of analysis, the meaning generated from the uniquely human application of knowledge. :)
That’s fair. I do get annoyed at other comments like “if you didn’t figure out how to resolve the Paradox of Tolerance the first time you saw it, you’re fascist”. It doesn’t leave room for people to grow.
I’m too old, I don’t get all the memes. The culture is different now and my definition of it was shaped by my experiences not well, what a meme really technically is. Or is for other people.
He’s not white, but other than that, I thought these points were obvious. You’re not supposed to like him.
He’s not white, but he is the equivalent. Also a son of a cop, and Japan still also has very racist and colorist views. In comparison it works.
i think the creator of this meme (not me if that wasn’t obvious) made a mistake in that it was actually L who was coded to be white:
“White Privilege” is going to be relative to where you are. They could have just said Privileged.
Okay I’m too lazy to Google it right now so feel free to completely ignore this, but would you happen to have a tldr on Japan’s ethnic groups? Or a link to a good and hopefully concise source?
I don’t really have much on other native ethnic groups aside from the Ainu people, which as a minority group went through colonialist oppression similar to other native/aboriginal groups in other locations. Some site links: https://minorityrights.org/communities/ainu/#%3A~%3Atext=These+policies+and+legislation+aimed%2Con+their+traditional+economic+activities.
https://www.ff-ainu.or.jp/web/english/details/post-5.html
As for colorism, the culture trends conservative. I don’t mean strictly politically, which it probably does too, but as in don’t act out and stick with traditional values. Due to that, white skin is generally considered better looking and proper, and there is a negative stereotype for darker skin.
They are similar to S Korea like this, and there is a sort of blatant implied racism towards dark skinned and especially black people in the culture. There is of course some fetishizing of dark skin too, but mainly in a fling but don’t settle down kind of way.
Some younger people are of course bucking some of these trends, and I’m not quite up to date as stuff in my own country, but it’s definitely still there. There are people who have given personal experiences, some positive, some definitely not.
who said they weren’t obvious? it’s called framing. applying a political lense to a fictional character’s traits and coming to a conclusion within the political framework.
literally no one is saying these observations haven’t been picked up on or that the character is meant to be liked.
no hate to you individally but, as a pattern, these anti-intellectual comments do make me sad. it’s like picking up simone de beauvoir and saying “duh i already knew women were historically oppressed.” the point isn’t already knowing. it’s about intellectual growth from the process of analysis, the meaning generated from the uniquely human application of knowledge. :)
That’s fair. I do get annoyed at other comments like “if you didn’t figure out how to resolve the Paradox of Tolerance the first time you saw it, you’re fascist”. It doesn’t leave room for people to grow.
ugh you’re so right and what an excellent example too
Framing this as a meme implies there’s supposed to be some sort of irony here.
The font, wording, and random minion and Steve are the ironic bits. It’s like reading real analysis as a shit post 😱
i think you have an unrealistically restrictive definition of meme for some reason haha
Me.
I’m too old, I don’t get all the memes. The culture is different now and my definition of it was shaped by my experiences not well, what a meme really technically is. Or is for other people.
Eta: plz help me understand the youths
well you are on 196 so honestly a good start. you can’t teach culture but stick around long enough it should start to click