• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    4 days ago

    Peaceful progress is orders of magnitude better than the option of violence.

    “Orders of magnitude”? Really? Also: by what metric?

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      I figured it was pretty obvious. If I weigh killing more people with the alternative of changing minds, then I’d much much rather make changes without the killing. Who wouldn’t?

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        This one is pretty easy. The system is crushing people. Healthcare CEOs have directly chosen to kill people and their loved ones.

        Class war has been raging for at least the last 50 years and the working class hasn’t even realized a punch has been thrown.

        We have more empty homes than homeless people in the US.

        We spend far more on healthcare per person than any other country yet our life expectancy is significantly worse

        Every aspect of your existence is monetized by some billionaire or another. Life is hollow and empty and that’s only about to get a lot worse.

        Peaceful protest by itself has rarely led to change. Peaceful protest is ALWAYS the better approach though.

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          You’re explaining a third alternative: Regression and nonviolence. That’s not one of the two I mentioned.

          Sure if you’re forced to choose between nonviolent regression and violent progress, some (but not all) would choose progress with its price over virtue with its price.

          But that’s an entirely different discussion. You likely either didn’t read / comprehend what I wrote, or you’re being disingenuous with your comment.

          Not everyone needs to cheer if we’ve been forced to choose violence. We can mourn that an even better choice was taken away.

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        3 days ago

        Who wouldn’t?

        Me, they got years of extreme wealth off our backs, they don’t deserve the kindness of a mind change and continued life

        The slower and more painful the death for them the happier I’ll be, don’t assume everyone a little bitch like you