• teamevil@lemmy.world
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    46 minutes ago

    What a piece of shit, pardoning Trump would do nothing to slow him down from destroying every social advancement made since 1920.

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      At the height of the presidential election campaign, I got down voted for pointing out at Fetterman and Tulsi Gabbard as examples that there are Democrats who flip, because they rail on “vote blue no matter who”. After Trump won his second term, I don’t see those die-hard types anymore. They finally admit that the Democratic party is compromised through and through, and that only a progressive takeover of the party will solve the problems that arose.

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        The problem is people are trying to beat republicans by being just like them. Republicans stand or kill their own. That created Trump, dems want to do the samething. Normal people need to start running again and need support.

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          The days of trying to court both sides and moderates have long gone past. It now requires more radical changes. If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left. The Republicans have rightly deduced that people want drastic change so they are unafraid to go further right (probably also because of influence from the Tea Party movement). Democrats need to go more populist like the Republicans have.

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            If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left.

            The basic problem is that the Democratic Party isn’t at all inclined to go left. The people who run it and fund it want a centre-right party to be the only alternative to the far-right party. Left-wing politics doesn’t funnel the money to where they want it to be. So the best they can do is tease people with a vague promise of progressivism, in order to win votes, but with no real intention or commitnent to deliver on it.

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              Problem is, the nightmare scenario of a second Trump term has already arrived. I don’t know if there will be further elections, I assume there will be and act as such. If there are then guess what? The nightmare is already here, and the disaster is already actively destroying the country, so tax credits for starting a small business or whatever the fuck aren’t cutting it anymore. I want actual governmental reform.

              They can either go left or they can fuck right off. Absolutely nobody will buy the “most important election of our lifetimes” bullshit again after whatever happens next year.

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        Miyares also told The Inquirer their encounter shouldn’t stop Fetterman from becoming a senator.

        “Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man’s life,” Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. “I hope he gets to be a Senator.” (That last line was underlined three times.)

        Miyares didn’t expect Fetterman to change his account.

        “Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”

        He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”

        Took an interesting turn. And then another right away

        Where is Miyares now?

        Miyares wrote to The Inquirer in response to a letter seeking his side of the story. Miyares is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work.

        According to the criminal complaint, the victim told investigators Miyares pulled out a knife after asking her a series of personal questions, driving a route not in the direction of her job, and locking all the car doors. She forced her door open, escaped, and flagged down nearby drivers for help as Miyares drove off. He later sent her a text message saying he knew where she lived and worked.

        Wtf

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    His noggin seems to be fully healed after his stroke: he’s now a fully-functional politician once again, with perfectly working lying, backstabbing, flip-flopping and sycophantic brain functions.

    Wish we all had access to this level of healthcare so we could all go back to performing our job to the fullest of our abilities like he does.

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      He ran around calling himself progressive and talking about all the progressive stuff the country needs…

      But all it took was a stroke and a little brain damage for him to go full maga, now he honestly and repeatedly says he doesn’t understand why people ever thought he was progressive.

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        I think the brain damage made him forget that he was willfully lying about being progressive.

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    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what grievance politics leads to. Cenk*, Anna, Fetterman, Dore, etc, when you think of criticism as competition to get to the top, or you think of one person’s success as a lack of your own, the only path is towards right wing grift.

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        Sorry, Cenk, not Jenk. The point isn’t that all of these people have become right wingers only that once grievance politics begins, that’s where it ends if there is no reconciliation. Anna and Cenk both double down and treat other members of the left as competition rather than allies. This will drive them from the movement sooner or later.

        When your calculus about why people are critiquing something you say is that they want to lower your status so that they can replace you, you’ve got a very different reaction, and one that will not involve actual engagement with the criticism. If you look at it from that point of view, their takes start to make more sense.

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          Oh I get you. I don’t really watch TYT before, but the last time I saw them they are quite militant. It put me off from further watching the show.

          I know where you’re coming from overall. Not everyone of course, but a lot on the left are similarly militant. Frankly, a lot of their ideas, arguments and their messaging approach is very low bar. They consume information sources that are “fast food”, shall we say. Both the left and liberals are rightly criticised for being smug, which turns off people or even shies many away from the broader movement. The militant left and liberals are kind of in their bubble and I realised that after interacting with “vote blue no matter who” Democrats and after Trump won. They refuse to acknowledge the root cause of rise of Trumpism as being economic. Instead, they quickly malign Latino, Muslim, black and white working class folks who voted for Trump as dumb, racist, etc. They forget that white working class used to vote Democrats…

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            Who is this “militant left” and how are they acting anything like liberals? It’s the liberals who are vote blue no matter who, oh we lost an election let’s go even further right to court voters who will never vote for us while pissing off our base so we can once again lose an election.

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            I don’t watch TYT, so I can’t go into too many specifics. But from what I do know, Cenk and Ana have both been buying into the crime scare bullshit, and agree with Republicans on immigration. Ana has also been saying stuff that is anti-trans. Cenk and Ana are no longer at all leftists. Maybe funding dried up and they are trying to pander to a different audience?

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    I think this is a lesson for those of us who support economic populism: even though many, if not most Americans agree on many economic issues, we don’t agree on everything. I don’t know that we can say we have a majority consensus movement. I think there is a movement that has a plurality, and that’s the Trump movement. As much as many of us might find that pretty disheartening, I think it is nonetheless true. Of the two main populist movements in the US, the progressive populist movement is simply not as large as the right-wing, Trump populist movement. I don’t know if people like Fetterman are just more aligned with the Trump movement ideologically, or if they’re moving to the larger populist movement for strategic reasons.

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    He doesn’t cycle till 2028, so this isn’t tactical, it’s strategic. Maybe Fetterman looks toward national office? Anyway, I hope he’s making a mistake, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

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    Does anybody know the political leanings of his healthcare team after that stroke? Did they influence his fractured mind as it was healing? I wonder if ‘stroke’ is the new doublespeak word for reconditioning at a CIA black site.

    spoiler

    /jokes for the too-serious minded.