If people have good tattoos, the skin the tattoo is on should be preserved at death and framed. For family to enjoy.
We already kill cows to eat them. Wearing their skin is just using more of their material.
Except it’s rarely the same cows
From the pov of a human or a cow?
Cow leather is more moral in my pov
Or is it about sourcing it from them after their natural death?
Even then cow leather seems more moralWhat do you base that on? A cow can’t consent to this.
Assuming it’s involuntary either way, cows.
There’s no shortage of alternatives, though.
I’d donate my body to a Tanner. Cows can’t make this choice in a we can understand at least.
Douglas Adams morally safe meat. Cows breed to be smart enough to agree to be food. To the point they will just pop off and off them selves … But don’t worry it will be in a very humane way… And don’t forget to try my rump it’s very juicy…
This is from the restaurant at the end of the universe btw
“How about a salad?”
“Oh, I know a few vegetables who’d object to that, Sir!”
It’s Rimworld, so making hats out of guests is kind of mandatory.
That’s so much leather tho
Digging graves takes time and space. Butchering gives resources. You do the math.
In Anomaly I feed them all to my Harbinger Trees for more bioferrite!
But if I had any cannibals, or my Ideoligion didn’t dislike corpses so much, I would probably do things differently.
Well, the human can consent, so that would make it perfectly ethical if they do.
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Well in all seriousness, humans can consent and cows can’t (or if they can, they have no unambiguous way to communicate this consent to humans), so human leather is more ethical.
And when it’s the only way to keep their family from starving, for example, people will consent in droves, securing supply.
It’s ethical i would say, since humans are an invasive species
Jokes like this make me uncomfortable :( there’s legit eco fash positions like this. Invasive species rhetoric is bad applied to all species imho, because killing children for some sort of inherited sin seems unreasonable to me.
I appreciate you calling out this kind of stuff. It seems like in this instance, OP was just joking, but I’m deeply nervous at how many people are genuinely believing and propagating eco-fascist rhetoric nowadays.
i forgot people actually think like this 💀
We do have to ask if Malthusians are really people…
You have to be equal opportunity about it. If you start saying this kind but not that kind then it’s just racism ingrouo outgroup bullshit.
Sourcing leather from humans is always morally correct! You will get 50% off for bringing your whole family in!
Reminds me of a time in biology class
Q: What’s a resource everyone has access to?
A:
WaterSkin.
because of the meat industry, i think its more ethical to use leather than let it go to waste. it lasts a long time and can replace a lot of other textiles that would need to be replaced more.
And the good thing is, when demand for (human) leather is higher than supply, people will just breed some more humans, keep them on farms, use their labor and sell their leather. With nothing going to waste, just the beautiful circle of life.
We’ve gotten quite efficient at doing that so there’s plenty opportunity to have more jobs, make a profit and to provide a product at an affordable price point, at the same time, all with human leather farms. Just have to compromise on welfare and sustainability step by step for more profit, but humans are already really great at ignoring such things when it’s advantageous to them, so most won’t ask any pesky questions anyways. We just have to normalize human leather (from factory farms) and everything will be great.
Yeah, just like we should eat more meat. Meat is just a waste product of the leather industry! Eating meat helps stop climate change because then we dont need to eat plants that are mono culture that use up space of trees.
People need to realize this more.
Its true, but on the flipside if you gave the meat industry less ways to recoup cost of “waste” then it may push meat prices higher and move people to plant based diets, thus removing need for amount of animals
I mean that’s a screenshot from Rimworld so ethical leather harvesting is a small thing compared to prisoner organ harvesting (Source I play too much Rimworld)
You can do both at once >:) Step 1: Obtain prisoners Step 2: Harvest all organs that they can survive without, followed by the second lung or the hat Step 3: Chop up into snack size portions and enjoy your new hat materials.
Hey like the chinese did to their political prisoners who wanted freedom!
please build shelves
Depends on the cow and the human.
If a cow is a dick and harming other cows, moral.
If the human lives a modest life and pursues charitable acts to make themself happy, immoral.
I feel like if a child with a similar level of cognition as the cow harms other children, most people will say they have no moral agency yet, and will still see harvesting their leather as immoral.
There are two ways to resolve that inconsistency…
