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      That’s what happens when you have some of the best user experience people and engineers in the world specifically designing for addiction. Facebook is no different, but their most successful demographic is. My grandma is hopelessly addicted to scrolling FB reels and my fiancé is hopelessly addicted to scrolling IG stories. Different target demographic, same goals

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    If you want to learn a language, Duolingo is pretty much the worst way to do so. Seek out community-created resources for your target language.

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      I did both the Spanish and French trees completely, I do think I learned some things along the way, and some of it stuck. Every language learning method is not perfect, you need to immerse with multiple things. I was living in country, doing duolingo, listening to pimsleur, listening to radio in language, going to classes and hanging out with native speakers, and my fluency still is not great. It takes years of being a child before you get anywhere and no system is going to solve it alone

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          That’s fair. Though I do think there’s some irony in wanting to learn a new language only to avoid communicating with people who use it (though I do also understand the utility of knowing a language isn’t exclusive to talking directly to people).

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    People are fucking stupid. I don’t think there’s any point in banning TikTok but they’re not wrong when they say it pushes Chinese propaganda and they’re probably not wrong when they say that they’re using it to spy on people.

    So angry TikTok users want to make that worse for themselves out of spite?

    Idiots.

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      For most people, the personal consequences of China being able to spy on them are nonexistent. The government that can actually abuse such power against them, e.g. prosecute them for out of state abortions, is the US.

      So protesting the US banning an app and trying to force people to use their own spyware social media makes some level of sense.

      It’s still obviously better to use privacy preserving and/or federated services, but that’s not something most people know about or understand.

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        Yes, and they also don’t care if they’re spoon-fed propaganda by their own choice. Because they’re idiots.

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      Half the population thought the US government was trying to kill them with a vaccine and a face mask while they coughed themselves to death.

      You’re absolutely right, people are fucking stupid.

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      I literally had a friend breaking down over it and I suggested Fediverse alternatives and they looked at me like I had sprouted an extra head.

      I even explained that US companies aren’t doing anything materially different than Tiktok (propaganda and spying on people), and they’re all bad. Still looking at me like I’m some kind of maniac.

      Everyone bitches about corporations but so few want to actually stop sucking on their fucking teat.

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      Maybe they were only in it for the propaganda?

      I do love that some of the “refugees” (lol) are just moving to an even more Chinese app though. I don’t think it’s all that many but the propaganda pointing toward propaganda is hilarious.

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        I think a lot more who move will find out that it’s not as simple as spending a few weeks on Duolinguo learning some very basic Chinese to successfully make their way around a Chinese language app with most users also posting in Chinese.

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          It’s a big reason why I think they’re just falling for more propaganda and why I’m absolutely tickled.

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      Honestlyyyyy and yet when I speak about actually ethical alternatives, ppl then be like nah cba, too difficult, too much effort or too complicated when it only takes five mins or less to make an account and yet these same god damn ppl expect you to always listen to them.

      We honestly truly live in a society.

      People only want to make a difference if it only gives them good social points, not actual change or things that enable for them to actually think critically and change their viewpoints.

      Feels pretty hopeless tbh esp as this is only the beginning of 2025 as well but hey at least there’s some logical people on here (though you do get the occasional dumbass on lemmy/mbin)

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      Political content is entirely banned on the app so your assertion that it pushes political propaganda when it refuses to host anything political at all is kind of reactionary fake news.

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        Who defines what is political content? Who controls it? Since when is all propaganda political?

        Is a video talking about China’s terrific business opportunities political? No. Is it propaganda? Yes.

        (Also, “political content is entirely banned” = no photos of the tank man or cartoons of Winnie the Pooh.)

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          Is a video talking about China’s terrific business opportunities political?

          Yes it is. And it’s not allowed. Would be banned. I have never seen anything remotely close to what you describe here. :)

          I have seen a lot of that on Instagram, though. Instagram has a surprisingly broad tankie community!

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            Are you really claiming praising China is not allowed and talking about how great it is would get the account banned? Because I do not believe you at all.

            And if you’re right, why the hell would anyone want to use a platform where they literally can’t say how great the place they are is? Is only trivial and unemotional conversation allowed?

            (I note you never actually said what defines political content or who controls that. I wonder why…)

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              You clearly came into this conversation with your mind made up so I am under no obligation to answer all your questions :P This is why people don’t like engaging with you

              Flying Squid: “is ice cream with waffles good?”

              me: “literally all my experience shows that the answer is yes”

              Flying Squid: “i do not believe you at all”

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                No one forced you to engage with me in the first place. You didn’t have to respond to my initial comment if you don’t like engaging with me.

                And, of course, nothing you said justifies refusing to give answers to very basic questions which happen to be critical of a platform you apparently like.

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    All the women in my office said everyone is moving to Lemonade. They said, “why would we move to another Chinese app? That’s dumb.”

    No idea who owns Lemonade but it was interesting to me that they were not interested at all in Rednote.

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    A 216% increase sounds impressive, but probably isn’t because the starting number is very small.

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      Except Duolingo regularly releases these numbers. In July 2024 it was reported to be slightly above 9m monthly chinese learners…

      So quite significant rise.

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            That makes more sense. I’d be interested to know the absolute increase in the number of learners in the USA but I guess the point remains that the ban caused some kind of uptick. As someone who’s been learning Mandarin off and on for many years I can only say good luck to them.

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    i knew that damn owl was going to get involved in corporate lobbying at some point

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        Honestly I had that app on my phone for 3 months before I actually started using so I feel you there. It’s not that bad to start off with and it starts super slow. And fuck streaks and notifications and all that shit I just do it when I’m bored instead of scrolling and refreshing pages on my social media of choice.

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          I am using it to learn French. I also appreciate the lesson structure as it relates to available time. I use it on breaks, or in the morning before i start work. I hope, once i finish the duolingo course work, i can get some tutoring to really learn it. I agree it is a beneficial use of time, as opposed to social media.