Absolutely everybody with maybe the exception of some well-sorted zen monks is crazy. It’s one of those things we learn in the wacky ward (or in my case, a partial-hospitalization program). Imagine a line going from healthy-brain to maximum-damaged brain (where ASD folk at the high end of the spectrum fall), they run:
Healthy
Neuroses (personal conflicts: I like ice cream but I also want to be lean). The best of us are here. But that’s few.
Personality disorders (APD, BPD, NPD, Being Donald Trump, probably). Note this is not too damaged, just in a way that makes psycho-killers
Psychosis, not to be confused with psychopathy which is not a psychology term but a forensic term. This is where BPD, Major Depression and so on go.
Schizophrenia, which literally means fragmented mind
Autism, according to the 1990s (pre-DSM-V) model, when it was called Autism and not ASD.
Since (according to my psychiatrists, ASD is a symptom of a high density of neurons that lead to crossed wires a lot, called kindling. When it takes place in the motor-function part of your brain, you end up with epilepsy.
ALSO: In since the industrial age and the end of extended family homesteads and the beginning of nuclear families, our resilience to domestic abuse has plummeted. (When there were aunts and uncles and grandmas around to run to when dad got drunk and handsy, it helped us manage our mental health as kids. Now we don’t have that support, and parenting has gotten worse as industrial and clerical jobs demand more of our time, so that by the 1970s, no one is actually around to parent (or to do research for civic duties). So we all are suffering from intergenerational insanity. At least it is my hypothesis.
I’m a well-sorted Zen Monk in your chart, but you’d really rate autism as more brain-damaged than literal schizophrenia?
The walking, raving, hallucinating, spiders in the skin, swimming walls, schizophrenia?
Many people with autism can lead moderate to fully functioning lives, i.e: A good chunk of YouTube content producers who churn out daily videos about a single, highly constrained topic (e.g: bridge reviews in multiple nations).
I think I’d put autism in Category 2 of your chart, leaving the rest where it is
P.S: I agree with your intergenerational insanity hypothesis; I’d summarize it as intergenerational trauma, actually, like a psychological debt deferred to progeny with interest
It’s not unusual for normies to casually throw out a self deprecating statement when fishing for a complement; eg., “Ugh, I’m such an ugly cow today” - to which the expected response is something like “no babe, you look SOOO good!”
Personally, I’ve tended to ignore such statements entirely, which has shrunk the number of people who speak to me significantly…and I am just fine with that.
Do with that information what you will, but I’m also neuro-spicy - so don’t use my behavior as a measuring stick.
I’m also autistic and I discovered (accidentally, when I reacted earnestly once) that if you say “I’m sorry you think that, do you want to talk about your self image?,” it ends the conversation without ending the relationship (useful for colleagues or similar).
There have been times my wife would say stuff like that. When I give the wrong response, she’d say “I was fishing for a compliment.”
At this stage in the conversation, any compliment is received as “forced”. Apparently after directly requesting compliment, it’s impossible to receive a genuine response.
If you know you are not crazy, saying “sorry, I’m crazy” is an outright lie.
So, people will assert a false statement and get upset at an honest response? TF is wrong with normies?
Even if I am completely aware that they are lying, I generally don’t get a positive response when I call them out on it.
I’ll just smile and nod and dismiss whatever they said.
Absolutely everybody with maybe the exception of some well-sorted zen monks is crazy. It’s one of those things we learn in the wacky ward (or in my case, a partial-hospitalization program). Imagine a line going from healthy-brain to maximum-damaged brain (where ASD folk at the high end of the spectrum fall), they run:
Since (according to my psychiatrists, ASD is a symptom of a high density of neurons that lead to crossed wires a lot, called kindling. When it takes place in the motor-function part of your brain, you end up with epilepsy.
ALSO: In since the industrial age and the end of extended family homesteads and the beginning of nuclear families, our resilience to domestic abuse has plummeted. (When there were aunts and uncles and grandmas around to run to when dad got drunk and handsy, it helped us manage our mental health as kids. Now we don’t have that support, and parenting has gotten worse as industrial and clerical jobs demand more of our time, so that by the 1970s, no one is actually around to parent (or to do research for civic duties). So we all are suffering from intergenerational insanity. At least it is my hypothesis.
I’m a well-sorted Zen Monk in your chart, but you’d really rate autism as more brain-damaged than literal schizophrenia?
The walking, raving, hallucinating, spiders in the skin, swimming walls, schizophrenia?
Many people with autism can lead moderate to fully functioning lives, i.e: A good chunk of YouTube content producers who churn out daily videos about a single, highly constrained topic (e.g: bridge reviews in multiple nations).
I think I’d put autism in Category 2 of your chart, leaving the rest where it is
P.S: I agree with your intergenerational insanity hypothesis; I’d summarize it as intergenerational trauma, actually, like a psychological debt deferred to progeny with interest
You’re right, let me prefix with that.
It’s not unusual for normies to casually throw out a self deprecating statement when fishing for a complement; eg., “Ugh, I’m such an ugly cow today” - to which the expected response is something like “no babe, you look SOOO good!”
Personally, I’ve tended to ignore such statements entirely, which has shrunk the number of people who speak to me significantly…and I am just fine with that.
Do with that information what you will, but I’m also neuro-spicy - so don’t use my behavior as a measuring stick.
I’m also autistic and I discovered (accidentally, when I reacted earnestly once) that if you say “I’m sorry you think that, do you want to talk about your self image?,” it ends the conversation without ending the relationship (useful for colleagues or similar).
Oh, I like that a lot.
I can’t tell if it’s anti passive-aggression or ultra passive-aggressive, but it works, lol.
Haha that explains it so well!
There have been times my wife would say stuff like that. When I give the wrong response, she’d say “I was fishing for a compliment.”
At this stage in the conversation, any compliment is received as “forced”. Apparently after directly requesting compliment, it’s impossible to receive a genuine response.