The fact that he’s a Nazi shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. He’s named after a character in a book written by a very famous Nazi, his fortune comes from Apartheid South Africa, his grandfather was a leader of a pro-Hitler fascist movement in the '30s and '40s.
I cannot understand the true believers. The people who are saying (1) its a Roman salute or (2) its a “My heart goes out to you” gesture.
They can twist themselves into knots with any other conspiracy theory, but cannot imagine the richest/smartest man to ever exist could figure out how to throw out a plausibly deniable Nazi salute.
This is Sideshow Bob explaining his DIE BART DIE tattoo.
We are being gaslit by half a country. That was a Nazi salute.
His fortune is built on seed money from apartheid south africa. How is it news he has a nazi fetish?
It’s not news to anyone paying attention, but that weird Tesla fanatic uncle is going to find it a bit harder to rationalise an actual unambiguous world-famous Nazi gesture. We’ve even got those worshippers over here, and anyone reasonable who was on the fence with their pro-Musk proselyting can’t overlook something this clear.
They can and will ignore it.
but that weird Tesla fanatic uncle is going to find it a bit harder to rationalise an actual unambiguous world-famous Nazi gesture
We’re already seeing their responses in the wild. They’re just denying it was a Nazi salute. And playing the “woke cancel culture leftists are taking him out of context” card.
And playing the “woke cancel culture leftists are taking him out of context” card.
An Australian neo-Nazi speaker recently pulled this coward move too, laughably. (Context: in their jurisdiction, the salute is illegal*).
Nazi promotion event 1: After […] performing the Nazi salute, Mr Richardson asked the crowd if he was “going be fined now”. [1]
Nazi promotion event 2: i-i was just waving at my friend Beryl in the back row and they screencapped it out of context, it wasn’t a salute :( leftism gone mad
Don’t worry, antifascists bashed their office door in on Christmas regardless.
Mask fully off
Musk fully on.
Mask off Musk on
Musk fully off
there are 2 salutes in the USA, o7 and hand over heart. This was very explicitly what it “appears to” be, and there is no excuse.
I’ve always wondered what o7 was all about, thanks.
you are welcome~
O7 commander
No shit, he actually did haha
Or he fucked up his dab
he did it twice, with the hand going from the chest out. No chance it was accidental
Video?
The post you commented on links to the video… If you need an alternate link, here’s the video on NBC: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/elon-musk-delivers-remarks-at-trump-s-inaugural-rally-229787717860
Not even a well-executed one either. I suppose back in the dark days he would be beaten up for this performance/disrespect to the Führer.
Stunning is also the TV commentary going in the direction of he had no idea it was the Hitler salute (to be fair two weeks prior he called Hitler a communist in a talk/interview with the chancellor candidate of the German neonazi party) …
Not knowing a thing about a movement that killed millions and happened within the last 100 years is bad. Being rich doesn’t mean being educated & civil.
If you’ve seen any leaked footage from neo-Nazi orgs, they’re surprisingly garbage at performing the salute. It’s actually amazing.
Just in case you were unclear. Although some people will pretend to be confused and that this is ambiguous.
So at what point do you actually become a Nazi is it when start doing the seig heils or do you need to be like goose stepping down the street first?
I hope this finally persuades most European companies to “𝕏-it”.
Death to amerikkka
I’m glad one news site has the guts to say it
#notallnazis
Edit:
TBH, having reviewed what actual Nazi salutes look like, I do think this strongly resembles a Nazi salute. I think p>80% this was intentional.
…how??
He even did it twice, as angrily as possible
His arm goes out to the side, in a beckoning motion; the nazi salute goes forward.
What the fuck world are you living in where there is any mistaking it for what it is?
While the final pose is practically identical to a Nazi solute, the motion is completely different. Hitler’s lifts straight up, like a crane; Musk’s sweeps out from the heart. That’s why I was not sure.
While the final pose is practically identical to a Nazi solute, the motion is completely different.
“it’s only a nazi salute if it is from the Nazideuxe region of France!”
thank you for being the only person here with a good sense of humour, @tortina_original@lemmy.world could take notes :P
I was mocking you.
So what? He’s out of practice? He’s not historically accurate? He definitely tried to throw out a Nazi salute.
It is a Nazi salute.
Musk is just shit at performing it. It’s still a Nazi salute.
I hope you gargle some balls, you stupid cunt.
good idea, i’ll go do that
Consider for the moment that he’s rolling his face off so he’s just doing what comes natural and makes him feel warm inside.
I’m asking this genuinely, how did the salute Elon gave differ from what you think a nazi salute is?
Okay, I reviewed what the actual Nazi salute looks like. Having done this, I actually do think this strongly resembles a Nazi salute. I think p>80% this was intentional.
O shit someone changed their mind on the internet? Impossible, you must be a deep state agent
I still think it’s possible this was unintentional, and even more likely that it was intended to toe the line of plausible deniability. When I show this to people in real life, they are unsure, so I don’t think it’s as clean-cut and undeniable as people on social media are saying it is.
I definitely think he was trying to be ambiguous, he just… failed to do so lol
Seriously? You approve of this dirtbag enough to use him as a reaction image?
It’s called the Bellamy salute and it’s as American as Apple pie
Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, attributed to the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly believed to have been used in ancient Rome. This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.
But yes, an obscure salute that was only used for a couple of decades over 80 years ago is very American…
Unfortunately for you, context matters. No matter how American this used to be you can’t plan to do a salute like this without planning for it to have clear connotations with the Nazi salute.
Unfortunately for you
satire is dead, I know.
downvotes on ML for ‘America bad’ didn’t seem right. I thought you people defederated.
Unfortunately for you, you repeated a talking point that is common right now even among purported leftist with no indication that it’s satire. It makes sense that the community reacted the same exact way they would to people they don’t want in this community who post that stuff unironically.
Exactly, America is racist
Unlikely he would have known that one, being from South Africa, even at his age.
So it’s the Roman salute, it’s the Bellamy salute, or… He just gave the fucking Nazi salute.
I’m aware your comment is probably sarcasm, can I’d rather not downplay something like this.
