Something something enjoy your republican overlords for the rest of time.
Seriously what the fuck is the democratic party doing anymore. It seriously feels like the second Obama left they collectively forgot what the fuck they were doing.
It’s because they had nothing to do with Obama. Obama was the result of the last honest primary with no fuckery, and the DNC immediately regretted it. They wanted Hillary to get the nomination in '08, so they forced her through in '16.
The people running the show since Obama left are the ones that are still pissed he beat Hillary in 08.
Instead of reshaping the DNC, Obama ignored it and Hillary’s people have had a hold of it except the brief few months Donna Brazil got in. And since she went public with all the shit they’d been doing, we haven’t seen anything else for 8 years.
They know exactly what they’re doing won’t win elections.
They know exactly what will win elections instead.
But that’s not what fills their campaign coffers, so that’s not what we’ll get from them.
The goals of Dem voters and Dem leadership haven’t been aligned for decades.
I still remember when Donna Brazile destroyed her reputation and lost her job after getting caught leaking questions for a CNN event to the Hilary campaign. Isn’t she one of Hilary’s people?
Yeah I remember the outrage over that. Lasted for weeks. “Sometimes I get the questions in advance”.
Then it turns out FOX News did the exact same thing for Trump this cycle but that interesting fact was withheld to be a sell-a-book bombshell (long after the result) and nobody really gave a shit.
Thank you so much for sharing this, this was exactly the kind of very credible (and wonderfully succinct) detail I needed to finally get some closure on 2016. I knew Hillary fucked us, goosed the whole party to try to force her way in.
In my opinion the ongoing failure of the Democrat party is significantly caused by this exact saga. I think this was the point many passionate people (like myself) were forced to realize “oh. The Democrats aren’t working for us either, the whole goddamn thing is rigged against all of us”, and there’s never been the same enthusiasm since.
When people blame Democrats-the-party-leadership, this is what I think of. Still infuriates me to this day, things could have been different. Now all these years later here we are, the “deplorables” she derided - people Bernie would have sincerely sought common ground with! - are well on their way to fascism.
For me it was the fact that the first time the Democrats let a Progressive run in their primary (Bernie) they also ran like 7 or 8 other progressives in an obvious attempt to siphon votes from Bernie
Politicians should have to be able to publicly account for every single dollar in their bank accounts. Something tells me if we somehow could magically make that happen tomorrow there wouldn’t be a politician left.
The magical way is having won an election and spending the next 4 years passing legislation and letting people know every day that you are working towards it, showing results every day of every month until the end of mandate
But yeah for that you need to win an election first
When one candidate’s campaign can take control of the party (via signed agreements!) more than a year before she’s nominated as the party’s candidate, while keeping that secret, because the party was in debt and the party chair Debbie Wasserman-Whateverfuckher let it happen -
That’s a lot more than just raising money. That’s deploying a strategy to exert total control, no matter what the constituents want and what the primary procedure requires, AND being dishonest about it the whole way.
Besides, aren’t we tired of the “having a lot of money means you can do what you want” approach to things?
Authoritarianism is oddly efficient in making decisions and having direction. Such are the perils of democracy… an opposition that embodies shared decision making and balance of power will often look slower, incompetent and out of touch…
I still believe in my heart of hearts that Bill and Hillary are swingers or have an open marriage and that they only got married for political reasons. When Bill got caught getting his rocks off in oval office they figured infidelity would be easier to stomach for the American people than the truth which is they they have an open marriage lol.
I have absolutely zero actual proof for this belief but I have chosen to believe this is what happened.
You’re not alone, I’ve thought this for decades too. Their marriage strikes me either as one of those medieval dynastic alliances, or Hillary wanting to puppeteer Bill to achieve her own ends.
Our only hope is that Monica says something before she passes. Poor woman was lambasted for doing ostensibly nothing wrong. Naughty and in poor taste sure, but come on now. Who wouldn’t wanna get sucked off in the oval office. I will bet money right now that the first female president is gonna get eaten out on the resolute desk.
Shit someone probably already has been eaten out on that desk… Imagine if it could speak lol. The stories it would have haha.
Something something enjoy your republican overlords for the rest of time.
Seriously what the fuck is the democratic party doing anymore. It seriously feels like the second Obama left they collectively forgot what the fuck they were doing.
It’s because they had nothing to do with Obama. Obama was the result of the last honest primary with no fuckery, and the DNC immediately regretted it. They wanted Hillary to get the nomination in '08, so they forced her through in '16.
The people running the show since Obama left are the ones that are still pissed he beat Hillary in 08.
Instead of reshaping the DNC, Obama ignored it and Hillary’s people have had a hold of it except the brief few months Donna Brazil got in. And since she went public with all the shit they’d been doing, we haven’t seen anything else for 8 years.
They know exactly what they’re doing won’t win elections.
They know exactly what will win elections instead.
But that’s not what fills their campaign coffers, so that’s not what we’ll get from them.
The goals of Dem voters and Dem leadership haven’t been aligned for decades.
I still remember when Donna Brazile destroyed her reputation and lost her job after getting caught leaking questions for a CNN event to the Hilary campaign. Isn’t she one of Hilary’s people?
Yeah I remember the outrage over that. Lasted for weeks. “Sometimes I get the questions in advance”.
Then it turns out FOX News did the exact same thing for Trump this cycle but that interesting fact was withheld to be a sell-a-book bombshell (long after the result) and nobody really gave a shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/08/media/trump-fox-news-town-hall-questions-maria-bartiromo/index.html
Here’s the piece she wrote…
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
Thank you so much for sharing this, this was exactly the kind of very credible (and wonderfully succinct) detail I needed to finally get some closure on 2016. I knew Hillary fucked us, goosed the whole party to try to force her way in.
In my opinion the ongoing failure of the Democrat party is significantly caused by this exact saga. I think this was the point many passionate people (like myself) were forced to realize “oh. The Democrats aren’t working for us either, the whole goddamn thing is rigged against all of us”, and there’s never been the same enthusiasm since.
When people blame Democrats-the-party-leadership, this is what I think of. Still infuriates me to this day, things could have been different. Now all these years later here we are, the “deplorables” she derided - people Bernie would have sincerely sought common ground with! - are well on their way to fascism.
Edit: grammar
For me it was the fact that the first time the Democrats let a Progressive run in their primary (Bernie) they also ran like 7 or 8 other progressives in an obvious attempt to siphon votes from Bernie
Politicians should have to be able to publicly account for every single dollar in their bank accounts. Something tells me if we somehow could magically make that happen tomorrow there wouldn’t be a politician left.
Maybe Bernie lol.
The magical way is having won an election and spending the next 4 years passing legislation and letting people know every day that you are working towards it, showing results every day of every month until the end of mandate
But yeah for that you need to win an election first
And be consistent
What’s the point of filling campaign coffers if it doesn’t help you win?
When one candidate’s campaign can take control of the party (via signed agreements!) more than a year before she’s nominated as the party’s candidate, while keeping that secret, because the party was in debt and the party chair Debbie Wasserman-Whateverfuckher let it happen -
That’s a lot more than just raising money. That’s deploying a strategy to exert total control, no matter what the constituents want and what the primary procedure requires, AND being dishonest about it the whole way.
Besides, aren’t we tired of the “having a lot of money means you can do what you want” approach to things?
Authoritarianism is oddly efficient in making decisions and having direction. Such are the perils of democracy… an opposition that embodies shared decision making and balance of power will often look slower, incompetent and out of touch…
Dems just don’t look like it, they act the part too!
They’re just aiding Trump. Their silence os complicity. They’re on the same side.
And that is not the side of the people.
Here’s where the tuna melt story came from
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/politics/democrats-reaction-trump-agenda/index.html
"Are there changes that we need to make? "
Man this is absolutely telling
These guys lost an election and are still dancing around the possibility that they might need to change tactics LMAO 🤣
They say at the end that the moment was viral but maybe viral for them is different than for the rest of us the blue collar workers
They collectively forgot what they were doing when Bill Clinton abused his position to get sucked off by an intern.
I still believe in my heart of hearts that Bill and Hillary are swingers or have an open marriage and that they only got married for political reasons. When Bill got caught getting his rocks off in oval office they figured infidelity would be easier to stomach for the American people than the truth which is they they have an open marriage lol.
I have absolutely zero actual proof for this belief but I have chosen to believe this is what happened.
You’re not alone, I’ve thought this for decades too. Their marriage strikes me either as one of those medieval dynastic alliances, or Hillary wanting to puppeteer Bill to achieve her own ends.
Our only hope is that Monica says something before she passes. Poor woman was lambasted for doing ostensibly nothing wrong. Naughty and in poor taste sure, but come on now. Who wouldn’t wanna get sucked off in the oval office. I will bet money right now that the first female president is gonna get eaten out on the resolute desk.
Shit someone probably already has been eaten out on that desk… Imagine if it could speak lol. The stories it would have haha.