Nah, nothing big outside of it being LTT and Gamer’s Nexus calling them out.
In a nutshell, LTT was given a prototype of a product that they basically said was shit due to testing the product outside of the specified parameters that company told them to test in and, instead of sending the prototype and other stuff that the company sent to LTT for testing back to said company, LTT auctioned the prototype off. Gamer’s Nexus made a video calling out stuff like this happening as well as the inconsistency of LTT’s testing lab data to point out that LTT is basically doing rush job videos for money and is starting to do more harm than good. Linus himself gets involved and shifts blame to everybody else except himself and his staff. On top of all this going on, a former LTT employee started going off about workplace harassment with some pretty serious accusations (but no hard evidence).
There’s a lot more stuff going on with the nitty-gritty, but that’s more or less the gist of things.
What needs to be in the fine print of LTT confirming they’re going to return it… to then turn around and sell it after confirming they’re going to return it?
From LTT’s own video. They show an email from “Felix”
I’ll transcribe so you’re not wasting time trying to pause the video if you’re on mobile or something. Bold is my edit.
Right. We Originally said you could keep it because we thought it would be good for you to have it for future builds - it wasn’t so you could sell it (whether for charity or not). Then when Linus clearly didn’t like it, we asked for it back and you agreed. That was a [redacted] prototype and we’re a very small company. Do you plan to reimburse us for the money it cost? You agreed to send it back and we planned our finances accordingly. This is not okay at all."
Edit: For completeness. The redacted portion was the cost of the prototype itself.
Thanks. Yeah sounds like a shitty situation and a shitty thing Linus did. I guess what I am trying to get across though is to me it still sounds like it wasn’t “official” in professional business terms.
When I used to work in an office they were constantly going through legal battles. Nothing at all should be settled by voice and handshake. Official business ime is just as cut throat as street business. It’s crazy. I’ve seen both worlds and don’t really like either. Both feel so inhumane and evil.
Hopefully Linus makes good of this and helps them out… Since he should know what it’s like for business to have growing pains.
Nothing at all should be settled by voice and handshake.
Good thing it was email :) And yes, I would consider emails exchanged between Colton and Billet Labs to be sufficient for court… Although I’m not a lawyer, and could be woefully wrong.
Hopefully Linus makes good of this and helps them out… Since he should know what it’s like for business to have growing pains.
I certainly hope LMG comes good on it at least financially. But I can’t help but wonder who the block was ultimately sold to and if that block won’t make it to another company who can beat the smaller company to market with their own design.
If LMG is the reason this company can’t make it to market, when otherwise they would have been a great new component manufacturer… That hurts ALL of us in the community.
It gets worse, the company actually sent the correct graphics card to test the device on, but they still used the wrong model which doesn’t fit properly.
Nah, nothing big outside of it being LTT and Gamer’s Nexus calling them out.
In a nutshell, LTT was given a prototype of a product that they basically said was shit due to testing the product outside of the specified parameters that company told them to test in and, instead of sending the prototype and other stuff that the company sent to LTT for testing back to said company, LTT auctioned the prototype off. Gamer’s Nexus made a video calling out stuff like this happening as well as the inconsistency of LTT’s testing lab data to point out that LTT is basically doing rush job videos for money and is starting to do more harm than good. Linus himself gets involved and shifts blame to everybody else except himself and his staff. On top of all this going on, a former LTT employee started going off about workplace harassment with some pretty serious accusations (but no hard evidence).
There’s a lot more stuff going on with the nitty-gritty, but that’s more or less the gist of things.
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
Shitty of him to sell the device but that’s the biz if you don’t put every little thing in fine print.
Them’s the breaks.
What needs to be in the fine print of LTT confirming they’re going to return it… to then turn around and sell it after confirming they’re going to return it?
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They admitted it in their own video… GN also showed emails that came direct from the company.
https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY?t=800
From LTT’s own video. They show an email from “Felix”
I’ll transcribe so you’re not wasting time trying to pause the video if you’re on mobile or something. Bold is my edit.
Edit: For completeness. The redacted portion was the cost of the prototype itself.
Thanks. Yeah sounds like a shitty situation and a shitty thing Linus did. I guess what I am trying to get across though is to me it still sounds like it wasn’t “official” in professional business terms.
When I used to work in an office they were constantly going through legal battles. Nothing at all should be settled by voice and handshake. Official business ime is just as cut throat as street business. It’s crazy. I’ve seen both worlds and don’t really like either. Both feel so inhumane and evil.
Hopefully Linus makes good of this and helps them out… Since he should know what it’s like for business to have growing pains.
Good thing it was email :) And yes, I would consider emails exchanged between Colton and Billet Labs to be sufficient for court… Although I’m not a lawyer, and could be woefully wrong.
I certainly hope LMG comes good on it at least financially. But I can’t help but wonder who the block was ultimately sold to and if that block won’t make it to another company who can beat the smaller company to market with their own design.
If LMG is the reason this company can’t make it to market, when otherwise they would have been a great new component manufacturer… That hurts ALL of us in the community.
Right. All good points!
It gets worse, the company actually sent the correct graphics card to test the device on, but they still used the wrong model which doesn’t fit properly.