• SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    You dont know what feminism is nor what it says about men and capitalism (a lot. Like a fuck ton. Like the entirety of feminist thought is based on male and female liberation and how capitalism enforces patriarchy)

    But you havent read any feminist theory. You have a vague idea of what feminism is that you have taken in via osmosis and cultural rhetoric. I can tell you for certain that you do not know what feminism means.

    That makes talking about it kinda hard. Not only am I having to explain a complex ideology to you and what it has to say about other complex ideologies but I am having to work through your false consciousness created by those oppressive ideologies. That creates a difference in language that makes talking directly about these topics hard because you think you know what the words I’m saying mean. You have a concept of them in your head. But you are wrong. It’s really hard to get past that.

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      22 hours ago

      But you havent read any feminist theory.

      Have you? Because if you have I bet you’ll actually have some recommendations for me.

      PS: Does Max Horkheimer’s “Traditional and Critical Theory” count? Pretty boring book that I stopped reading 80% in.

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      a complex ideology

      Bro, Intersectional Feminism isn’t that hard to understand. It’s not that complex. I’m not the one* using Jargon as regular vernacular and then get butthurt when people say that “Reverse Racism isn’t real, it’s just Racism”, because I would be talking about “Racism” as if it means “Systemic Racism”, when outside the context of intersectional feminism it just means “Inter-personal Racism”, but I would not be able to accept that and start calling randos on the internet “racist”.

      Again, Intersectional Feminism is not that hard.

      *mind you, you’re not doing that, but I’ve seen plenty of online situations where self-proclaimed Feminists use Feminism Jargon while talking to regular Joes - it’s just a dumb strategy, and I don’t understand what their goal is.

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        21 hours ago

        I do not argue with people who come into a conversation in bad faith. There is nothing to be gained, and only time and mental health to be lost.

        Basically, I don’t want to talk to you.