because they are beholden to china… if you say anything bad about china, or anything that china officially bans, you get banned for racism against asians….
You making up your own narrative to get offended over.
Mocking the regime is what fedi is about. I surely don’t go easy on domestic daddy, it is silly to expect anyone to give sheepooh any more deference than I gave Biden or Trump.
These parasites deserve no respect from the wagies.
When you’re a moderator on a forum, do you investigate this and check everyones intent, or do you go, someone posted a yellow bear to represent a chinese person and that seems racist to me?
Can chinese people not do racist ignorant things? I’ve known many ethnic minorities to make racist charicatures of their own race, I don’t really see your point
Your evidence that i’m brainwashed is that I think a yellow, slow, lazy bear is kind of a weird portrayal of a chinese man?
Xi is a dictator and evil, I believe that, in fact, you know very little about my beliefs… I don’t think the fact that I think it’s weird to call chinese people yellow means i’m brainwashed, and the fact that that’s what you’d jump to over such a small difference of opinion indicates to me that YOU are in fact brainwashed.
I think you all go into anti-tankie mode whenever someone says anything you disagree with.
Well, when a Chinese person tells me it’s racist and they’re offended, I’ll stop using it. Not really interested in what some white, probably American middle-aged dude cosplaying an armchair communist for the aesthetics thinks is offensive.
Poohs defining characteristic is being gluttonous and lazy… that’s why he says oh bother about everything, and i’ve certainly never seen him be intelligent… i guess the anthropomorphic bear is capable of speech and that qualifies?
None of that really matters to me, honestly, him being yellow is simply enough.
I don’t need to make the assumptions to feel okay with it, the assumptions are just for fun on the side. I don’t need to justify myself to you, and you failed to make me feel bad about it in the first place.
I could be corrected on this but as far as I’m aware, it’s not a caricature of Chinese people or Asian people, it’s specifically a caricature of Xi Jinping, one of the most powerful people in the world. In fact, on Forbes list in 2018, he is listed as the #1 most powerful person in the world.
So I don’t think it’s a question of race so much as a question of how far are we allowed to make fun of the most powerful people on the planet.
I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.
There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.
none of his personality resembles pooh, it’s just his race, if anything he’s ruthlessly efficient
I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times.
The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.
I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.
what does this have to do with anything
There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.
okay, he’s still yellow… and who cares if it was used before that or not? I genuinely have no idea what that has to do with anything
As a forum moderator, you see chinese person being a yellow bear, and tigger being obama… seems racist, better remove because it seems like a racist charicature.
None of the history of it matters at all in my eyes. I honestly and genuinely don’t see why it matters to you.
I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times.
The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.
then make a charicature that makes fun of that and isn’t yellow, I would be fine with that
Not to split this but the real obvious parallel with Obama would be Tigger. I’m slightly surprised that didn’t come up, because it’s literally the same origin story.
It’s a lame joke but I don’t see why it should be banned
because they are beholden to china… if you say anything bad about china, or anything that china officially bans, you get banned for racism against asians….
Because it seems like a racist charicature, no?
How?
He’s yellow
No it doesn’t.
We should be allowed to mock our leaders, especially the dictators
Of course I absolutely agree, that doesn’t mean forums should allow racist charicatures, however.
Why on earth would you assume i’m against that?
It’s not Racist.
You’re not processing reality
Is calling a chinese person yellow racist?
You making up your own narrative to get offended over.
Mocking the regime is what fedi is about. I surely don’t go easy on domestic daddy, it is silly to expect anyone to give sheepooh any more deference than I gave Biden or Trump.
These parasites deserve no respect from the wagies.
I’m fine with mocking the regime and encourage that completely, just not by calling chinese people yellow
they do deserve no respect
No. The Chinese people were specifically comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie The Pooh before the term was banned.
So? does it seem like one?
When you’re a moderator on a forum, do you investigate this and check everyones intent, or do you go, someone posted a yellow bear to represent a chinese person and that seems racist to me?
No. It does not. This meme is well known and you’re either playing dumb or were living under a rock.
Blackface is well known, guess it isn’t racist.
Stop making things up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
??? what did i make up?
he’s a yellow bear being paired with tigger, who was supposed to be obama.
Does that really not strike you as racist at all?
That article didn’t even say one word about my point.
Han people aren’t being racist against themselves. You making it up if anything is more racist. As if Chinese people can’t make a meme.
Do you believe it’s impossible for someone of a race to be or do something racist against themselves?
Honestly, even if you do, he’s yellow.
That’s all I need as a moderator to ban it, because it’s racist to call chinese people yellow.
What does the history even matter?
The notion that i’m implying chinese people are incapable of making memes is hilarious, you should self-reflect.
Get a better charicature that doesn’t seem racist. You’re just feeding tankies and making yourself look weird.
Well, you’re not the mod here, so who cares what you need to ban it?
This is a thread where we give our opinions on what should be bannable or not…
the OP is literally asking for opinions! What do you even think the point of discussing things is?
Do you think if anyone doesn’t agree with you, that discussion is pointless, and you shouldn’t even hear them out?
no, I think if the person is a tankie, you shouldn’t hear them out on an instance on which being a tankie is against the rules.
This is not a mockery of his race.
This is a mockery of his fragile ego that is apparently hurt by such a joke.
Can’t it be both?
The joke was started by the Chinese on WeChat. No, it doesn’t seem racist, unless you mean it’s racist to appropriate Chinese memes?
Can chinese people not do racist ignorant things? I’ve known many ethnic minorities to make racist charicatures of their own race, I don’t really see your point
You’re brainwahsed and should self reflect
Your evidence that i’m brainwashed is that I think a yellow, slow, lazy bear is kind of a weird portrayal of a chinese man?
Xi is a dictator and evil, I believe that, in fact, you know very little about my beliefs… I don’t think the fact that I think it’s weird to call chinese people yellow means i’m brainwashed, and the fact that that’s what you’d jump to over such a small difference of opinion indicates to me that YOU are in fact brainwashed.
I think you all go into anti-tankie mode whenever someone says anything you disagree with.
This time instead of typing shit to deflect, turn off your computer, and self reflect
I did, I determined that calling chinese people yellow is racist, and depicting them as yellow is racist.
also addressing your points directly is what I did, you are actually deflecting
Well, when a Chinese person tells me it’s racist and they’re offended, I’ll stop using it. Not really interested in what some white, probably American middle-aged dude cosplaying an armchair communist for the aesthetics thinks is offensive.
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weird that you’re making so many assumptions about me to feel okay with something kinda bigoted.
edit: I really don’t get it… he’s a yellow squinty eyed slow stupid lazy bear
He’s yellow, you got that right. And that’s the only thing. He’s not squinty, slow, stops, or lazy. Similarly, Obama isn’t orange and bouncy.
Poohs defining characteristic is being gluttonous and lazy… that’s why he says oh bother about everything, and i’ve certainly never seen him be intelligent… i guess the anthropomorphic bear is capable of speech and that qualifies?
None of that really matters to me, honestly, him being yellow is simply enough.
Winnie is a bear that can talk. That is in no way stupid. He’s an adorable blonde bear and everyone loves him.
I don’t even see the insult.
His eyes are literally two black dots. I have no idea where you get “squinty eyed” from.
I don’t see it either, beyond the fact that he’s yellow, I don’t get the joke, it simply seems like the joke is that he’s yellow, lazy and stupid.
I’m fine with lazy and stupid, but not when it’s paired with yellow.
That’s not the joke… The joke is that shepooh looks like Winnie and obama looks like like the tiger in the pictures. That’s the origin of the joke.
I don’t need to make the assumptions to feel okay with it, the assumptions are just for fun on the side. I don’t need to justify myself to you, and you failed to make me feel bad about it in the first place.
Now I bet you need a hug, come here.
Life is fun when you play pretend, let me know when you want to be an adult though
I could be corrected on this but as far as I’m aware, it’s not a caricature of Chinese people or Asian people, it’s specifically a caricature of Xi Jinping, one of the most powerful people in the world. In fact, on Forbes list in 2018, he is listed as the #1 most powerful person in the world.
So I don’t think it’s a question of race so much as a question of how far are we allowed to make fun of the most powerful people on the planet.
The charicature part is strictly about his race though.
would you be fine with a blackface of obama?
the joke seems to be entirely yellow squinty eyed bear looks like him
i’m fine with forums banning racial charicatures, even of people in power
none of his personality resembles pooh, it’s just his race, if anything he’s ruthlessly efficient
I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.
There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.
I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times.
The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.
what does this have to do with anything
okay, he’s still yellow… and who cares if it was used before that or not? I genuinely have no idea what that has to do with anything
As a forum moderator, you see chinese person being a yellow bear, and tigger being obama… seems racist, better remove because it seems like a racist charicature.
None of the history of it matters at all in my eyes. I honestly and genuinely don’t see why it matters to you.
then make a charicature that makes fun of that and isn’t yellow, I would be fine with that
Not to split this but the real obvious parallel with Obama would be Tigger. I’m slightly surprised that didn’t come up, because it’s literally the same origin story.
Doesn’t the initial image being paired with Tigger strike you as odd?
Almost as if there’s two obviously racist things about the initial pairing?