A Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public, and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden

      • @utopianfiat@lemmy.world
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        1511 months ago

        It’s not accurate to conflate the Mujahideen and the Taliban. In fact, the Taliban is in open conflict with a lot of former Mujahideen.

      • @Late2TheParty@lemmy.world
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        -711 months ago

        The Taliban predates US government intervention. Kindly STFU.

        The Taliban came to power after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, you dollard!

        • @merridew@feddit.uk
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          1211 months ago

          3 July 1979: CIA initiates Operation Cyclone, financing the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan.

          25 December 1979: Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

          1989: Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

          1992: Democratic Republic of Afghanistan collapses; start of the Afghan Civil War.

          1992: Operation Cyclone ends, after funneling thousands of tons of weaponry worth several billion US dollars to militant Islamic groups, including groups with jihadist ties.

          1994: Emergence of the Taliban.

  • @JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world
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    2811 months ago

    Are we talking a per pore basis or more like a per square inch of skin thing? Does this mean women with larger faces are more valuable so long as a higher proportion of face is covered vs uncovered? I’m just trying to understand their obviously completely logical and rational point of view here.

  • @o0joshua0o@lemmy.world
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    2511 months ago

    Good point. The last thing you want is a woman whose face has been used up by being looked at a bunch of times.

  • Match!!
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    2011 months ago

    women should have power, not value

    • @ShunkW@lemmy.world
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      1711 months ago

      It’s ok for people to have value, but that value shouldn’t only be their appearance. And men have value too. This guy has negative value to the world.

      • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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        511 months ago

        Depends what you mean by value… the Taliban isn’t talking about personal virtue, they’re talking about women as products.

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    1911 months ago

    Every single one of these Taliban men was birthed by a woman, nursed by one, and mostly raised by one.

    Women, if you raise your son’s to be Muslim they will treat your daughter’s like this. Tell them that there is no Allah, tell them that Abdul and Mohammad were wicked, tell them that the Imam is a shaman. Tell them the truth before it’s too late.

    • Drusas
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      1311 months ago

      No, not all Muslims treat their daughters like this. Too many do, yes, but not all. Look at Indonesia, for example, or many Western countries which have Muslim populations. It’s partly religion, partly culture.

    • AlternActive
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      211 months ago

      Hi know good muslim people, so it’s not just that.

      That said, plenty of issues come down to religion in general, with a few exceptions here and there.

      • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        1611 months ago

        It is amazing to me how different the views are. One on side you got Westerner apologists whose knowledge of Islam is what they half remember from a video they saw on YouTube ten years ago on the other hand you have the Taliban. Both sides claim to know what real Islam is about. Well sorry not sorry I am going to believe the people who live with the Koran vs you.

        You know good Muslims? I do as well. Does that make the tenents of Islam good? I don’t think so. Does that make them true? Nope. All you can really say is that you know people who aren’t following their own religion and as a result they are good people.

        • ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃
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          811 months ago

          Correct, and the same for Christianity. The doctrines are really quite similar in their treatment of minorities. The only difference in that respect is that one doctrine says to just kill them, and the other says to exile and shun them (but stoning for some), or torment them mentally and emotionally until they abandon their beliefs and conform to the doctrine of the church.

        • Match!!
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          211 months ago

          The tenets of Islam are pretty good tho - pray a lot every day, give money to the poor, do a pilgrimage - it’s the historic and contemporary leadership, culture, violence, and precedence that are bad

          • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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            11 months ago

            Oh really? Because your comment was about me and not a single thing I said.

            Guess the Koran doesn’t teach logical fallacies, just how much a women’s testimony is worth compared to a man’s.

              • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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                111 months ago

                Attack the argument and not the person. Do I need to put it in some Koran-like form?

                And skydaddy said it unto the prophet blessed be he, thus sayeth Allah the most merciful. It is far better for a person to attack the ideas than the men who spoketh the idea. For the first leads to reasoned debate the latter is Haram and leads to logical fallacies.

                There, that ought to do it. See? I am meeting you halfway. Do you need a copy of basic logic as well?

  • @Water1053@lemmy.world
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    1011 months ago

    “I kinda like mysterious women.”

    “I totally agree! They totally lose value if other people can see their face in public.”

    “Wait what? No, not like that…”

  • @carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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    911 months ago

    When you’re a worthless, ignorant, fundamentalist, once dickhead- you’ll say anything to make it look like you have any kind of value at all. If hell was real, these guys would fucking rot there.

  • TheProtagonist
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    411 months ago

    Sounds like if they would get less cows for them when selling them on a market, after their face was revealed.