I was on stable diffusion art and one of my comments got removed for saying the OP didn’t “make” the AI generated art. But he didn’t make shit the AI made it, he typed in a description and hit enter. I think we need a new word for when someone shared art an AI made, like they generated it or something. It feels insulting to actual artists to say you made art with AI

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    11 hours ago

    Honestly, these are both simplistic takes. Tools are tools are tools, so for better and worse there is a big gradient across “popped up a genAI and asked for an image with a prompt”>“asked a genAI for an image and then asked for changes”>“asked a gen AI for an image and then fine tuned it and tweaked it in parts to the point where, let’s be honest, this would have been faster to do in Photoshop from scratch” (which is a thing and it baffles me a little)>“made an image using some genAI content in the process”.

    It’s a bit of a mess, and a good reason why to be safe for production and commercial use a lot of pro content creation places just ban the technology outright to avoid legal issues later. That’s a good call.

    If you want to draw a line for amateur image sharing… I don’t know, it gets weird and complicated.

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      10 hours ago

      Well it’s like you commission a work when you use AI. Do this, more like that, bluer, smaller etc. So not creating art IMO.

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        10 hours ago

        there’s also sometimes deeper collaboration with image generation, where you edit the result in like krita and then send it through the generator again to smooth out the edges of the touch-ups.

        i occasionally do work where i cut up existing images to make new ones, like making a person in a particular pose by pulling an head from one image, a torso from another, an arm and background features from a third etc, then i would painstakingly color match and blend it all together with hours of filter, clone brush and single-pixel edit work. with image generation i can get a blending and lighting pass for my image in a few seconds. it’s not perfect but the speed makes the work a lot easier.

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          7 hours ago

          Seems like it would be buch easier to take up drawing and painting 😁

          Jk, to each their own artistic process.

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            6 hours ago

            i’m no artist, and i only do this stuff for me and my friends :) i’ve tried drawing but my fine motor skills are lacking. i see it as a sort of mashup art, which closely watches the way i see image generation as well.

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        Well, just to put things in perspective, you absolutely get to show, sell and promote something you comissioned, at least under most agreements. I’m not sure that is a great comparison. There are bigger issues with AI image gen than there are with paying an artist for something and using it for your project, whatever that may be.

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          4 hours ago

          Yeah but you’re not allowed to say you made it, you can buy and sell paintings all day long 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t really get what you want to say here.

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            You absolutely get to say you made it. Plus modify it, reproduce it, use it as the basis of other art and anything else you want. Any exception to that is some negotiated contractual clause that sets how crediting is meant to go or some policy to disclose it.

            Movies have a long tradition of strict crediting rules (in the US, anyway). In comics there’s few people involved, so it tends to be easy. In games you can absolutely have a ton of art applied throughout (or concept art used as the basis for something) with no direct attribution beyond telling people yourself.

            Hey, if AI hate gets people to realize how little recourse the actual person doing creative work as a contractor has to claim it at least this nonsense will have a positive effect.