I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

    Give them something to vote for. You can write articles of many paragraphs to analyze the course of the election, but in the end it boils down to this: The DNC pissed off too many of their voters and offered nothing in return.

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      Give them something to vote for.

      This. We saw the energy and joy when Biden dropped out, and it was reflected by Harris almost matching Obama’s small donor numbers. Hope. Change. They were simple campaign slogans, but people coming out of the Bush era wanted to believe, and had a candidate to believe in.

      It’s a damning indictment that my most genuine electoral engagement, in my entire adult life, was voting “Uncommitted” in the 2024 Democratic primary. That was my most enthusiastic, “I 100% support this” vote ever, because almost every other time has been against something/one, or accepting lesser. From ballot initiatives, Senate races, down to the local comptroller chair.

      Contrast that to my vote for Kamala in the general afterwards. It’s so unbelievably hollow to say “our democracy is strong” when the choice is always ‘well they’re better than them’.

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      The DNC platform was free medicine, money out of politics, and taxing the rich.

      If they could have resurrected a Unicorn live on stage and it could have magically cured cancer in the radius as thanks: people would still be shitting on them all over the internet.

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        The DNC platform was free medicine, money out of politics, and taxing the rich.

        Money out of politics? From the DNC? Do you seriously believe this? When was the last time Hardis talked about this in her campaign?

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          They voted on campaign finance caps and limitations in 1995 and 2002 which passed and was sued by Citizens United in 2007 when 5 republican leaning SCOTUS judges struck it down as unconstitutional, and the DNC tried to pass more campaign finance laws recently with HR 1 For the People Act in 2019 and 2021 and again as Freedom to Vote Act in 2021 and 2023.

          So yes, the DNC have actively attempted to pass campaign finances for over 20 years. That’s a core part of their platform.

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      Exactly this! You can’t just “lesser of two evils” your way through life as you slide towards hell. “Lesser of two evils” isn’t a choice, it’s a hostage situation.

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        Choosing the bigger evil ain’t the way out of it though. Unless you are an accelerationist that believes things have to get worse before it can get better.

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          You can’t get out of a hostage situation by making out with either of the two bank robbers.

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      Yeah. No matter how I look at it, this seems to be the only real solution that would have helped.

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      I think they offered more than most people see on social media. Their messaging isn’t great and I’ve seen a lot more left-leaning youtube channels talk about them but not outside of that.

      Then again, I’m also not American so I don’t know.

      Lastly, the non-voters are as much to blame in my opinion. If you didn’t know you should have voted, that’s on you.

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        I think they offered more than most people see on social media.

        The problem is that they made big promises in the early Harris campaign, then continuously abandoned them and watered them down until the campaign became a shadow of its former self. Equally problematic is that they continued to shift to the right and adopt policies that are unpopular with their base. I mean remember the border wall? And of course let’s not ignore the elephant in the room that was Gaza.

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        Giving subisidies to green energy companies and improving the GDP doesn’t tangibly improve people’s lives in 4 years and that’s what people wanted.

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          It also takes longer than 4 years to rebound everyone out of the spiral Trump left the nation in. I think messaging around realistic goals and checkpoints could go a very long way to allowing people to understand no President is going to save everyone in a single term, or probably in 2 terms, especially if they have a crater to climb out of just to start at zero. Real change is a long term goal, it would take multiple administrations working towards a goal.

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            Americans are not educated enough to understand any of that.

            They’re hurting finantially, so they get mad and vote out the incumbent.

            Democrats push policy like the avg american went to their ivy league schools.