• apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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    Nobody deserves this. Not the Palestinians. Not the American people who will suffer under Elon Musk’s presidency. This whole thing is abhorrent.

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    Funny how they find themselves on the same side as Republicans and Zionists - blaming the Palestinians for their own genocide. Different path to get there, but the same destination.

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    Libs gone full mask off about genocide lately and it’s fucked up. Zero respect for these people.

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      Maybe neither Democrats or Republicans are to blame, but instead it’s the wealthy capitalists who have been using their growing money and influence to force both political parties into supporting a genocide.

      Plenty of CEOs of major US companies have shown their support for Israel, but very few have even acknowledge Palestine. The rest of us are just peasants living under the lie that our votes actually could meaningfully change this.

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        random people who happen to vote for a Republican or a Democrat aren’t to blame, sure

        but the actual Republicans and Democrats; the representatives, the party functionaries, the people who’s checks are signed by the RNC or the DNC? Those people certainly deserve some blame.

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        The problem is that both democrat and republican leadership seems completely controlled by the wealthy capitalists.

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      to be fair: they’re not aware that they’re supporting a genocide despite all of the evidence in front of their eyes; like maga.

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    What you deserve for not voting democrat.

    I guess the Palestinians should’ve voted democrat, too.

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      Trump is saying the quiet part out loud like the moron he is. Israel has always been backed up by the US in their genocide that started last century

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      I would say it takes a lot of nerve calling people who refused to vote for a genocide ‘fascism facilitators’ but Sartre warned us that nazis like you don’t give a fuck when it comes to good faith and honesty

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              I guess in a way?

              The point is that you don’t have to pull your hair out pondering whether someone is a nazi if they’re associating with nazis.

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              I’d say it’s another form of the Desmond Tutu quote: “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”

              Sitting at the table with Nazis and not killing or reeducating (forcibly if necessary) them implies tolerance of their intolerable views, which is thus functionally acceptance of their views.

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          Based on a brief tour through their (corsicanguppy) comment history I’m guessing BlueMAGA at least, which translates to “I’m a Nazi but I don’t like being called a Nazi”. Here’s an excerpt from one of their recent comments:

          Voting isn’t some bargain between a thousand voting groups and one candidate. Let’s break it down.

          THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES

          YOU PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE

          […]

          The unmentioned third option is “If you vote third party or don’t vote at all, you accept the consequences of a worst-case scenario”.

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            I looked it up, knowyourmeme says it’s people who blindly support Biden similarly to how trumpists support Trump. I didn’t know that was a thing… but how does that makes them nazi? is it that they embody the “strongman principle” as put by Daniel Guérin to be one of the four pillars of fascism?

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              I think anyone who engages in, advocates, or aids a genocide, particularly based on a perceived sense of racial superiority over the victimized group, qualifies sufficiently as a Nazi.

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                I’ve been using the term “fascist” to describe Democrats for quite some time, because really looking closely at the definitions/characteristics of fascism and how this society works - you have this economically and structurally enforced racial supremacy, you have the nationalism, the militarism, the merger of business and state - the fact that Democrats pay lip service to leftism doesn’t really change it. Democrats haven’t really changed in the last two years, rather, the genocide of Palestine just laid bare who they were for us.

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                  That seems apt. Democrat complicity in the Gaza genocide was the last straw for a lot of people, and arguably why Kamala lost. Importantly as well, I suspect Dems will not be trusted again by a large group of the population unless significant changes are made or the party is “Theseus-ed” into a completely new format, if they survive as a party at all. And that segment of the population grows every day as awareness of the genocide spreads and is discussed.