• bayesianbandit@lemm.ee
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      11 hours ago

      That’s why I edited my comment to advertise it at the top later (it’s me who posted the long ass Lemmy comment)

      Though I would add I am still new to the fediverse and am not familiar with the owners of lemmy.blahaj.zone

      I also think in the long run we need instances that are heavily vetted and defederated from the main instances. Growing from private Discord server alliances seems like a healthier option in the long run

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        the owners of lemmy.blahaj.zone

        They are great.

        Growing from private Discord server alliances seems like a healthier option in the long run

        Could be, but would Discord users be willing to switch to a Reddit/Lemmy format?

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          So I take your word for it sort of. The name itself of referencing blahaj will turn off a lot of transsex users and it’s a nuanced conversation I could write a book about. Transmedical is also clearly viewed as synonymous with gatekeeping as per someone camping the name.

          Whatever a persons personal views on internal trans politics may be, the community is very diverse and there’s lots of infighting. For hosting medical information I think it needs to be a place where regardless of which faction people come from they’re not afraid of being banned unless they are explicitly harming others (not just disagreeing with them)

          Maybe if I hang around longer and get to know them my concerns will be moot. I’m open to that and am fully willing to admit I showed up 2 days ago/am only going off vibes (but so will incoming users be going off vibes)

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              I’m definitely checking it out! I do believe there’s probably a happy little bubble of people in there of the sort I personally tend to vibe with. But I’ve vibed with a lot of different types in the community over the past 20 years

              The main thing it’s taught me is that when people strongly advertise as one particular type of trans they tend to be hostile toward other types of trans who they see as harming them.

              Or other times they pleasantly surprise me and I observe other factions sling mud at them regardless & nobody gets anywhere lmao

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                I have literally never seen a post from Blahaj involving LGBT infighting of any kind. I’ve been here almost two years. I don’t read every post on there or anything but yeah, never seen it.

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    Great that they’re discussing it. Less great that people are still like “no one is ever going to move to Lemmy, so let’s just ignore it and stay on the same or another centralized social media where we always are bound to someone else’s whims”. I posted a topic regarding anarchists staying on centralized platforms some months ago, and it still doesn’t make sense to me that many, often marginalized groups, trust large corporations to be the place where they can organize. I realize the barriers to entry are lower, and that more people are on those sites (so that you can reach more), but it’s still not logical at all in the end.

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      I hate to say this, but have you noticed how mentally lazy most people are? Using signal is easy. Bitwarden and randomized secure passwords is easy. I can’t get any of the normals in my life to make use of them. It’s too much mental labor to do something different. Something that isn’t forced on you by herd mentality and constant advertising spam.

      I honestly think one of the reasons I love Lemmy is because the people that come here are the people mentally active enough to think outside of the cages mainstream social media builds for us.

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        we’re all burnt out from life bending us over. I intended to sign up here for a couple months and onlu just got around to it.

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        I get your last point but I wish there were more regular people to fill up all the non-tech coms…

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        15 hours ago

        People always say that choosing a server is too complicated so new users often don’t get past that.

        If that’s all it takes to stop people they weren’t very interested to begin with.

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          non technical people don’t understand how computers work. for us it’s intuitive that a computer can have a program on it that listens to a port on the network and serves interactive web pages for for most people “app on phone does something” is all they know. their mwental model is shaped by large corpo offerings.

          I think our pitch to the tech illiterate should be “hey look at this great website, great content, mods actually do their jobs, users are friendly” let them sign up thinking a particular instance is just like what their used to, then they discover on their own accord that some users have an extra @example.com at the end, and if they ask explain that there are other websites just like that one, and the websites can exchange messages so it all works like one big website. for apps, just tell them “when you launch it for the first time it asks for your server, just type in the domain name, this app supports multiple websites. good, now put in your username and password and you’re all set”

          starting new people off in the browser might be a bit awkward on mobile but saving the federation talk for later is probably best. focus on the surface level appeal (a website that is good and doesn’t suck) and they can learn why it doesn’t suck later

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        I wouldn’t have put it that way, but it’s true that everyone here had to choose the slightly more inconvenient option when deciding where to scroll memes, and for that I applaud you all.

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          It’s not even “more” inconvenient. I use the same client to access Lemmy that I did Reddit (sync on Android). All I did was download the Lemmy version and sign up.

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        I honestly think one of the reasons I love Lemmy is because the people that come here are the people mentally active enough to think outside of the cages mainstream social media builds for us.

        Let’s also be honest, people just don’t know about Lemmy at all. There are a few communities here where I am sure that the tech literacy is average, but they do fine just because someone posted a detailed guide on how to setup their account, install an app and they’re set.

        Lemmy is a good enough Reddit replacement, but it just isn’t known enough.

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          Another thing that might make it hard for people to stay even if they show up? If you have a lemmy.world account and view all posts from federated instances, the amount of furry lewds, giant futa horsecock, and pedo anime girl posts is astronomical. I think my instance blocking list is like 60+ lines long. Maybe we should post a guide for “how to unclutter your feed of yiff and 10 year old anime girls in suggestive poses”

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    Maybe check out PieFed as well. In contrast to Lemmy, it offers a Wiki. Though, I’m pretty sure it isn’t federated yet. And it needs some more attention before becoming super useful. Selfhosting a wiki would be a good approach, too. We even have one federated Wiki: Ibis (by one of the Lemmy devs). But that’s still in its infancy.