Just wish there were more transparency around counts and content engagement.

I firmly believe most influencer these day were propped up with payed views and botted engagement. Not that lemmy is the same but it all feels so dirty.

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    people can just click downvote and be done with it and move on with their day. I think that avoids some unhealthy conversations.

    I’d heard this argument before but you must put it better because I now understand it. An off-ramp for sterile conflict, basically. Yep that’s fair and I never even thought of it.

    Still, fact remains that I personally have never (literally never) downvoted a comment. Which inevitably makes the downvotes I receive feel even more unjust. Can’t win!

    Slashdot’s system was a good compromise: no upvoting or downvoting, just labels like “insightful”, “informative”, “funny”, (uh) “troll” etc. At least that forces people to be honest about what they’re really trying to say.

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      Hmmh, there are some ideas out there. Maybe we’d be better off with these more nuanced slashdot labels, or emoji reactions. I mean they’re not quite the same thing, but we have these emoji reactions on Github where you can give like 6 specific ones like thumbsup/down, a rocket, eyes … And I think some of the Fediverse microblogging platforms have them. It’s a step in that direction. The common argument against them is, we can’t calculate a ranking with nuanced choices and it becomes unclear how to sort the posts.

      And i still use some platforms entirely without voting. Like more old-school internet forums. I think they’re fine and fun to use. Sometimes they offer the ability to give stars or medals for outstanding comments. But other than that voting is pretty much absent. I think it immediately makes them loose the social media vibes. But it often changes the atmosphere for the better. But it’s probably really the result of several factors.

      I don’t know how to tie this up. Seems we agree, the current mechanics of Lemmy isn’t the pinnacle of evolution. Maybe one day someone implements a better concept. It might take some effort to make fundamental changes, since this is baked into the underlying Fediverse. But there’s lots of room for improvement left, in my opinion 😉
      (And it’d probably help lots of users if the ranking and sorting wasn’t just a blunt popularity contest.)

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        They’re usual for non-participants, IMO. When you’re a passive consumer looking for actual information or insight, the sortable comment score is what makes all the difference.

        emoji reactions on Github where you can give like 6 specific ones

        Forgot about that. Yes exactly, would definitely be progress.

        I don’t know how to tie this up

        Upvote and move on. :) But still, emojis would be better.