• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Fuck. Here they come with their annoying facts. Don’t ya hate when that gets in the way your support for western expansionism?

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        23 hours ago

        ah yes, support for western expansionism, which is why the op comic doesn’t criticize the US at all

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          22 hours ago

          Supporting a Democrat-led expansionist proxy war causes the criticism of Republican-led expansionism to fall flat. But that’s actually a pretty great representation of the fickle morality of liberals, so maybe I’m being too harsh.

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            21 hours ago

            or, people who oppose these also opposed biden’s expansionism and you’re just strawmanning… I guess we’ll never know.

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              21 hours ago

              This isn’t a strawman. The Putin reference in the comic is a straightforward support for Biden’s narrative to justify the proxy war.

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                There didn’t need to be U.S. political justification for U.S. to support Ukraine. U.S. supported a democratic nation getting invaded by an authoritarian nation… as it should ALWAYS do. That’s one of the things that makes it the shining beacon on the hill.

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                  17 hours ago

                  The US overthrew their government in the 2014 Maidan Coup, and installed a far-right puppet regime to fight their proxy war.

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            24 hours ago

            Oh that’s right, you’re the “Ukraine is all Nazis and Russia was right to invade them” one?

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              Yep, that’s them. Had a long-ass thread with them where they wouldn’t engage with any of my arguments about why Ukrainians aren’t Nazis and instead tried to attack me directly. But can’t tell for sure if they are a tankie, vatnik, or just a troll.

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              23 hours ago

              No, I’m not. But I am certain “don’t give guns to Nazis” sounds exactly the same to you.