I’m really hoping this is a sneak peak of sorts because I’m having a serious issue believing my mox opal is degenerate enough to take my deck to a whole new tier of play. Underworld Breach is a problem but Sneak Attack is ok? Feels like they asked a group of test kids what cards make them salty.
I have a Kwain deck that has no win condition. The entire basis for the deck is to give everyone cards and life and mana and keep everyone alive long enough to draw, resolve, and protect a Divine Intervention. Typically by the time that happens, when I manage it, the entire table has drawn through their entire libraries at least once. I’ve never had anyone - regardless of the power level of the table - tell me they found the deck to be oppressive or unfun to play against. However, it has a Fierce Guardianship in it, so I guess it’s degenerate now.
I could totally see fierce guardianship being used degenerately but it’s inclusion alone shouldn’t be the benchmark. That’s a really good counter and should basically be auto-included just for the commander related ability.
@Postmortal_Pop@KoboldCoterie isn’t all this covered under the explicit Rule 0 discussion point? Where you say “yeah this card is in my deck but I’m not using it optimally so think the deck is a lower tier”
Oh for sure, and this is already so much better than everyone’s unique definition for 7.5/10, I just really like to see metrics. This list say I need to be weary Winota and I would appreciate a reason behind that.
I’m really hoping this is a sneak peak of sorts because I’m having a serious issue believing my mox opal is degenerate enough to take my deck to a whole new tier of play. Underworld Breach is a problem but Sneak Attack is ok? Feels like they asked a group of test kids what cards make them salty.
I have a Kwain deck that has no win condition. The entire basis for the deck is to give everyone cards and life and mana and keep everyone alive long enough to draw, resolve, and protect a Divine Intervention. Typically by the time that happens, when I manage it, the entire table has drawn through their entire libraries at least once. I’ve never had anyone - regardless of the power level of the table - tell me they found the deck to be oppressive or unfun to play against. However, it has a Fierce Guardianship in it, so I guess it’s degenerate now.
I could totally see fierce guardianship being used degenerately but it’s inclusion alone shouldn’t be the benchmark. That’s a really good counter and should basically be auto-included just for the commander related ability.
@Postmortal_Pop @KoboldCoterie isn’t all this covered under the explicit Rule 0 discussion point? Where you say “yeah this card is in my deck but I’m not using it optimally so think the deck is a lower tier”
Oh for sure, and this is already so much better than everyone’s unique definition for 7.5/10, I just really like to see metrics. This list say I need to be weary Winota and I would appreciate a reason behind that.