Imagine wearing this to public gatherings. It would probably ruin some relationships but the chaos it would cause would be so sweet.
I could stand to lose the relationships this would ruin
Nazi sympathizers aren’t really people I want to have in my life.
That’s not the only people who’d distaste that.
But there are people who would dislike this because of the violence it depicts.
They’re allowed to. I don’t need that kinda weakness in my circle, tho.
First of all - yes, violence is the Nazi language, and probably the simplest way to get through to them. Pain and hurt is what they signed up for, and I wouldn’t mind giving it to them.
But also consider:
https://crimethinc.com/2019/04/08/against-the-logic-of-the-guillotine-why-the-paris-commune-burned-the-guillotine-and-we-should-tooInteresting read.
Thanks for this.
Also consider NKVD and how in Stalin’s USSR the enormous (real) trust Soviet state and revolutionary ideology had were spent on violence that weakened and poisoned the skeleton of that project before WWII fractured it. And then basically till USSR’s end it was mimicking its own alternative self that didn’t transpire because of repressions and war.
If you have a mechanism that doesn’t work right, repeatedly hitting it with a heavy object is the least likely approach to succeed.
Approval of violence is that.
Also see Lao-Tzu, “one who excels in fighting is never roused in anger”.
Around 26 nazis didn’t appreciate this post.
Fascism by Eco includes lack of principle, that is, it’s an ideology without form, except for traits that result from lack of form, like violence and hierarchy, but also approval of competitiveness (in the form of backstabbing among others), collectivism and self-sacrifice.
What I mean is - maybe the picture will feel too fascist for your taste, if you meditate on it for some time without reading comments. It suggests a fascist (without any “maybe”) approach.
Surprised this hasn’t been removed for not being “safe enough.”
(I fucking love it)
Fuck em if they do!
It fits, though.
I like it, but please don’t wear this in public. You’re gonna scare some kids and make some parents angry and that’ll just feed the nazis. But it’s great for Saturday night’s or as a work outfit.
Thats shi do go hard, i love it.
I like it.
Thought that was the back, then realized that’s a beard. We need a /beardsthatgohard.
Boy, there are a whole lotta shitty takes in this thread. Glad to start a conversation.
I was thinking something from TST (The Satanic Temple)would get under their skin more. Most I believe are “religious” and a little Satan could probably go further, plus Thanksgiving would be a hoot.
They would do the same to you if they had the ability, unless you’re one of them. Good people just ask that you also be good, and do your best. Good people don’t expect you to be something you’re incapable of being, like a different skin color, or gender, or the same as them. Those that expect those things aren’t good, and are hardly people. I will hug you as a sibling regardless of age, gender, orientation, but expect one of my siblings to be something they aren’t and we have a fucking problem.
To be clear. Fuck Nazi’s. If you believe whites are default better, you deserve to be left behind by the world you fucking caveman. I remember the Nazi’s that wanted to harm my family. I have a looooong memory.
Make one with the IOF as well next nazi in the making
What do you have against the International Osteoporosis Foundation?
Giving old folks brittle bones is nothing to brag about!
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FC St. Pauli has better anti-Fascists shirts and I do not want to stoop to the level of a shit neo-Nazi MAGAt.
What are you talking about “stooping to their level”? We literally shot Nazis on-sight because they were such a threat.
Just because violence isn’t graceful, doesn’t mean it’s not necessary to end a threat to humanity. Sometimes it’s the moral thing to do. Some people are simply too dangerous to allow their existence.
Violence is everywhere even on shirts of those who are against it…
I’m not against violence at all.
Violence solves many problems.
I AM against authoritarian violence against the unprivileged.
Yeah that’s a hell of a shirt to wear though.
The message is clear, and people trying to defend the KKK and/or Nazis are the very same who need to see that message.
It’s a play on the “paradox of tolerance”. TLDR: If you tolerate intolerant people, the intolerant eventually work their way into power and authority.
See this is where you go off the rails. I support your idea and message but wearing a shirt of anyone getting their brains blown out is pretty hectic, divisive and inflammatory.
What part of the KKK and Nazis gave you the idea that they weren’t already hectic, divisive, and inflammatory? I would go as far as saying that it’s the whole point of the KKK and Nazis.
You cannot reason these people into acceptance of others who aren’t like them. The only way you can deal with a violent and intentionally cruel group is by meeting them with their own methods. They have no issues committing genocide, so why should I take the high road with them when they clearly have every intention of going low and taking cheap shots wherever they can?
People wearing shirts like this in public will absolutely stir the pot, but it will also cause some to think twice before committing acts of violence against marginalized groups, which is an improvement.
Those who react negatively to this imagery in defense of the KKK/Nazis are the ones you need to be worried about.
Those who react negatively to this imagery in defense of the KKK/Nazis are the ones you need to be worried about.
That is a wild statement and my entire point. That’s your thoughts, some people dislike violence full stop, regardless of who is committing and who is suffering the violence. I’m honestly struggling to think of a single socially acceptable place to wear the t-shirt outside of a protest. Even then, it’s like you’re hoping the protest turns into a riot.
Edit: and further, who the fuck said the KKK isn’t inflammatory etc? You guys really need to sit the fuck down and have a think about the shit you are spewing.
You clearly don’t want to understand my viewpoint here, so I’m just gonna leave.
Weird that people may be intolerant of the intolerant. Maybe don’t fetishize genocide if you can’t handle a little of that same energy back.
Is that reply to me? Lol
Didn’t think so?
