I’m someone who’s trans, who voted for Harris, who tried to make sure everyone around me understood that Trump was a fascist (it didn’t work). I’ve had way too many Europeans and Canadians try to tell me that I should be taking partial responsibility for Trump. I’ve had way too many people from Europe and Canada tell me that I should just get over it, grow up, and stop being hysterical about what’s going on, while immigrants are being rounded up and sent to totally-not-concentration-camps in Guantanamo Bay. This is called “victim-blaming” and it’s a disgusting practice and quite honestly, fuck them too at this point. If they wanna be on the wrong side of history, that’s their choice.
Imagine telling the immigrants, Jews, disabled or LGBT during the Holocaust that it was their fault that Hitler was rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps.
What an absolutely disgusting attitude and it shows the true colors of Europe and Canada. The most upsetting part is that I know that once this is all over, they’re gonna be sitting there crying crocodile tears while pretending that they knew nothing and nothing could have been done.
Edit: meanwhile I have a couple south american friends who are trying to get me to move to their respective countries because supposedly people in most south american countries don’t actually give a shit about your sexuality or gender; it’s only the corrupt-ass American puppets who give a fuck. Surprise-surprise. Also, if true, so much for the anglosphere moral superiority complex lmao. I’m very tempted to take a long vacation to visit them and test the waters.
But in the end this is only and issue that American’s can solve, but people outside the US will bear the consequences something a whole not of American’s are forgetting.
Idk how you being trans is relevant to the specific situation, maybe stop using that in irrelevant context. There are a lot of people who will take your point a bit less serious. The same gues if you use other irrelevant points, like what you ate for dinner.
Keep up the good work and keep helping to fix the mess caused by your countries citizens.
Me being trans is very relevant because, in case you haven’t noticed, the US government is trying to erase trans people. We’re currently one step away from all-out genocide, complete with concentration camps and mass graves, something which our current politicians in power have expressed an interest in multiple times. When I say we need help, I’m not saying that we need the EU to come fix our problems, I’m saying we need refuge and an escape before Trump starts finding space in Guantanamo for trans people too. We need a place to run to because our own country is threatening to disown and murder us. I would not put it past them to start “”“losing”“” people’s IDs and birth records, so they can claim false citizenship and send them to Guantanamo as “immigrants”.
This is not something I can fix. This is not something trans people can fix. This is like staring a grizzly bear in the face and expecting to be able to fight it one-on-one.
Yes I know and it is terrible, but it is terrible either way. If you personally are trans or not. Argumenting it in a different way can help and you migt even get some transfobes to get to help you. Most trans people I know (especially the older once) here in NL, had way less issues before it became something people publicly shared. But they don’t consider themselves trans, they consider themselves of the opposite sex they where born.
If people are giving up then there is almost no hope of fixing the country. There is no allied who can help the US because of the way the US positstioned itself in the past.
If needed you can start the paperwork to migrate here and you might even be able to apply for help as a refuge. In NL we already can’t house own people with the influx of refugees from different parts of the world, but I gues we make it work? Idk if I where you I would try it in all different ways to get to a country where people are more accepting of each other
(You personally can seek asylum here ofc, most EU countries’ asylum laws allow sexual persecution as reason and you’ll be protected as long as your life is in jeopardy. Just get over here)
Yeeaaaahh… You might wanna double check that because last I checked (though I may be misremembering), most anglosphere countries explicitly deny refugees from the US because the US is a “”'safe harbor"“”. Even so, though, unless there’s a guarantee that I’ll be taken seriously (which, considering a lot of what people have said to me, is unlikely), it’s not a great idea to be applying for refugee status until I have a list of places lined up because otherwise there’s a very real possibility that it’ll put a target on my back with the US government.
If you’re being sarcastic about the fact that I’m trying to make sure I’m prepared before I take the jump, fuck off. The difference is between the US government taking pot shots in the dark vs laser targeting me because I triggered one of their systems and am now on their radar. At least there’s a significant chance they’ll miss me when I’m crouching in the dark.
While you do recognize Orban, the afd, and Lukashenko, you bring them up as a way to suggest that that Americans should not ask for sympathy on Trump because they have done nothing to prevent these a other authoritarian governments from forming. Nobody is asking you or your country to step in and save America from Trump. We all know America did that to its self and has to live with it now.
But we are all living under systems in which the fascists are dominating the propaganda machine in “the west.” It is not something happening in isolated pocks in the few scenarios you list. You give whiplash by indicating both the the individual has not done anything/enough to prevent genocide and Trump and that it is also not their personal fault. But then you still say that you will support this person once they (or Americans generally) fix the threat to you. But the call is coming from within the house. They can not entirely fix the threat to you even if they managed to fix the entire us political system. It is not just their Democratic system resulting in this.
They deserve sympathy as we all do or likely will. May we all be saved from the poor decisions of our nationalal peers.
How do you expect trans folks to get there when there is a secret travel ban in place for them and they are getting their documents stolen and destroyed when they attempt to get the required passport to be able to travel? This has been going on for weeks. Its obviously only going to get harder to leave as more EOs are signed and freedoms eroded.
I’m someone who’s trans, who voted for Harris, who tried to make sure everyone around me understood that Trump was a fascist (it didn’t work). I’ve had way too many Europeans and Canadians try to tell me that I should be taking partial responsibility for Trump. I’ve had way too many people from Europe and Canada tell me that I should just get over it, grow up, and stop being hysterical about what’s going on, while immigrants are being rounded up and sent to totally-not-concentration-camps in Guantanamo Bay. This is called “victim-blaming” and it’s a disgusting practice and quite honestly, fuck them too at this point. If they wanna be on the wrong side of history, that’s their choice.
Imagine telling the immigrants, Jews, disabled or LGBT during the Holocaust that it was their fault that Hitler was rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps.
What an absolutely disgusting attitude and it shows the true colors of Europe and Canada. The most upsetting part is that I know that once this is all over, they’re gonna be sitting there crying crocodile tears while pretending that they knew nothing and nothing could have been done.
Edit: meanwhile I have a couple south american friends who are trying to get me to move to their respective countries because supposedly people in most south american countries don’t actually give a shit about your sexuality or gender; it’s only the corrupt-ass American puppets who give a fuck. Surprise-surprise. Also, if true, so much for the anglosphere moral superiority complex lmao. I’m very tempted to take a long vacation to visit them and test the waters.
It’s not fair to blame you that is true.
But in the end this is only and issue that American’s can solve, but people outside the US will bear the consequences something a whole not of American’s are forgetting.
Idk how you being trans is relevant to the specific situation, maybe stop using that in irrelevant context. There are a lot of people who will take your point a bit less serious. The same gues if you use other irrelevant points, like what you ate for dinner.
Keep up the good work and keep helping to fix the mess caused by your countries citizens.
Me being trans is very relevant because, in case you haven’t noticed, the US government is trying to erase trans people. We’re currently one step away from all-out genocide, complete with concentration camps and mass graves, something which our current politicians in power have expressed an interest in multiple times. When I say we need help, I’m not saying that we need the EU to come fix our problems, I’m saying we need refuge and an escape before Trump starts finding space in Guantanamo for trans people too. We need a place to run to because our own country is threatening to disown and murder us. I would not put it past them to start “”“losing”“” people’s IDs and birth records, so they can claim false citizenship and send them to Guantanamo as “immigrants”.
This is not something I can fix. This is not something trans people can fix. This is like staring a grizzly bear in the face and expecting to be able to fight it one-on-one.
Yes I know and it is terrible, but it is terrible either way. If you personally are trans or not. Argumenting it in a different way can help and you migt even get some transfobes to get to help you. Most trans people I know (especially the older once) here in NL, had way less issues before it became something people publicly shared. But they don’t consider themselves trans, they consider themselves of the opposite sex they where born.
If people are giving up then there is almost no hope of fixing the country. There is no allied who can help the US because of the way the US positstioned itself in the past.
If needed you can start the paperwork to migrate here and you might even be able to apply for help as a refuge. In NL we already can’t house own people with the influx of refugees from different parts of the world, but I gues we make it work? Idk if I where you I would try it in all different ways to get to a country where people are more accepting of each other
It’s you, you’re in the meme. Take a look again.
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This is not how a person, or country, should act.
Yeeaaaahh… You might wanna double check that because last I checked (though I may be misremembering), most anglosphere countries explicitly deny refugees from the US because the US is a “”'safe harbor"“”. Even so, though, unless there’s a guarantee that I’ll be taken seriously (which, considering a lot of what people have said to me, is unlikely), it’s not a great idea to be applying for refugee status until I have a list of places lined up because otherwise there’s a very real possibility that it’ll put a target on my back with the US government.
Oof, life seems hard for you.
Might not be specifically Europeans and Canadians unsympathetic to you.
If you’re being sarcastic about the fact that I’m trying to make sure I’m prepared before I take the jump, fuck off. The difference is between the US government taking pot shots in the dark vs laser targeting me because I triggered one of their systems and am now on their radar. At least there’s a significant chance they’ll miss me when I’m crouching in the dark.
It’s not all about you either… what kind of stupid take is this, just say you hate the people who live in America and be done with it.
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Yeah, don’t we all
Its wild how judgey this is when many EU voters are flirting with voting for fascists as well.
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While you do recognize Orban, the afd, and Lukashenko, you bring them up as a way to suggest that that Americans should not ask for sympathy on Trump because they have done nothing to prevent these a other authoritarian governments from forming. Nobody is asking you or your country to step in and save America from Trump. We all know America did that to its self and has to live with it now.
But we are all living under systems in which the fascists are dominating the propaganda machine in “the west.” It is not something happening in isolated pocks in the few scenarios you list. You give whiplash by indicating both the the individual has not done anything/enough to prevent genocide and Trump and that it is also not their personal fault. But then you still say that you will support this person once they (or Americans generally) fix the threat to you. But the call is coming from within the house. They can not entirely fix the threat to you even if they managed to fix the entire us political system. It is not just their Democratic system resulting in this.
They deserve sympathy as we all do or likely will. May we all be saved from the poor decisions of our nationalal peers.
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How do you expect trans folks to get there when there is a secret travel ban in place for them and they are getting their documents stolen and destroyed when they attempt to get the required passport to be able to travel? This has been going on for weeks. Its obviously only going to get harder to leave as more EOs are signed and freedoms eroded.