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hexbear
the wokes
Okay now that’s hilarious
Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.
Are yall so laser focused on feudposting you missed that piece of news?
Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.
It’s wild how much a game of telephone happens even within what you’d expect to be the closest circle of association
Hexbear exists, the domain is changing names and federation is broken for now but posting is still happening on chapo.chat.
I had to check but hexbear currently redirects to chapo.chat so I assume they have the domain for now.
Which says a lot about the manufactured outrage. Nobody even has a clue what is going on over at hexbear, but somehow their Lemmy experience is ruined by it.
I had to check but hexbear currently redirects to chapo.chat so I assume they have the domain for now.
Not for me it doesn’t, I can access it fine.
Clear your cache, the Hexbear domain is up for auction and (as it has for days now) will redirect to chapo.chat, their old domain that they still-owned.
Check again, it’s right there.
In the sense that Twitter doesn’t exist anymore, yes.
Hmm, I was wondering why I didn’t see them (last I knew, my instance didn’t defederate them). What happened?
They forgot to renew their domain 😂
The former admins still have control of the domain and can’t be reached. Stop saying shit when you haven’t done any investigation.
Regardless of whether you’re politically left or right, I feel like the hexbear crowd is just tremendously unfriendly. Even when I agree with them, I usually feel bad reading what they have to say. Being unwelcoming is not a good strategy for proliferating one’s politics.
Depends, if you’re a Communist or an Anarchist and aren’t being sectarian (except against, like, Gonzaloists that support Gonzalo and defend Pol Pot), it’s very friendly. By not allowing liberalism, it ends up stopping endless arguments between leftists and liberals before they can even start.
they will quite literally tear you up if you so much as do an outside think, i posted one comment, and got banned immediately.
hahaha, for those who like to play along, it’s always fun to check the moderation history of the user under the comment with the three dot menu when someone complains about bans. I actually lol’d when I saw the ban from lemmy.ml/c/chess.
Ok, some of these mod responses are gold:
Banned
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: Multiple reports of genocide denial and encouraging suicide. Having a bad day?
Removed Comment based by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: useless troll is useless
Removed Comment i do your mom for fun by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: duplicate, low effort, juvenile, rude and worst of all not funny
Tankies shit my pants.
This whole instance-tribalism seems very self-defeating to me. Why be decentralised if everyone ends up so boxed off that there are just a handful of isolated instance-clusters talking amongst themselves? It’s like how email (SMTP) is decentralised but the mega-hosts act like a cabal, gatekeeping so strongly (and virtually doing blocklist-by-default for unrecognised servers - even of good standing) ultimately capturing the user-base by undermining the decentralisation. Luckily with DKIM/SPF/DMARC/ARC/etc and stronger anti-trust regulations email seems to be slowly climbing back out of that hole. Unfortunately with all the banal tribalism it feels like much of the new Activitypub based tech users are willfully climbing into that same hole, without even being corralled there by mega-hosts.
I’m pretty sure if we’re excluding instances with troll farms or hosting illegal material, the map of Lemmy instances is still kind of a single amorphous blob, with nearly all connected instances being just 1 connection away from their blocked instances. These can’t be defined as isolated instance-clusters. Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors, lol.
Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors
Nah, they think they know what hexbear users are up to because random folk make shit up and nobody calls them on it, because they’re defederated.
I see you also know about PugJesus.
PJ is kind of interesting, in that being anti-communist is a massive part of their reason to be on the fediverse, as a mod for 2 anti-communist communities and a prolific anti-communist poster. They denounce the Black Panther Party for being “violent” and supporting AES, but will uphold the Nazi-aligned Hungarian revolt, where Jewish people and Communists had their doors marked and were being lynched, as an example of “real revolution against the Soviets.”
I once left a reasonable and non-hostile response to a post on tankiejerk and they removed it and permabanned me for being “tankie,” lol.
The stuff random folk “make up” perfectly aligns with the experiences I had before I blocked them, so I have no reason to call them on it.
People usually don’t see site wide bans on lemmy.ml in a very good light: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
Tribalism has always been a thing but seems to be having a big resurgence lately. i think when the state of the world makes people feel small they crave more validation from echo chambers.
You would think so. But .world cannot help themselves from slinging their shit over the fence.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for “harassment” but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
Btw to anybody who comes across this user is a .ml Tankie, so anything not a tankie is right-wing to them
And Tankies = Authoritarian “communists” so basically, they’re pro-CCP, pro-Russia/Putin and neither can do no wrong in their eyes or it’s just CIA propaganda.
Anything critical of either, no matter how factual, historical or deserving it is is swiftly removed under their favorite catch-all “Rule 1 bigotry” on .ml
Lemmy.world seem to be more middle-of-the-road on many things while Lemmy.ml and Hexbear seem pretty intolerant to me
I think it was on Lemmy.ml that I saw someone have their posts deleted allegedly for spreading US propaganda or some reason like that, when all they had said was that the war in Ukraine was started by Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 (I’m pretty sure this is factually true and Ukraine didn’t invade any of Russia until 2024)
.world has a Zionist rating website (mbfc) as their “allowed sources” list. Tolerance is very subjective.
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It’s always helpful when you “criticism of Zionism is antisemitism” types go mask off sooner rather than later.
pfft I didn’t bring up zionists. they did.
accurate name tho.
Anti-zionism is not Antisemitism. Zionism is not Judaism nor is it representative of Jewish people. Your conflation of the two is genuinely antisemitic.
Zionism is anti-Semitic at it’s core, it other-izes Jewish people, and justifies the violent settler colonialim of Israel as in the defense of all Jewish people, which only serves to further fuel genuine Antisemitism at the expense of Jewish people globally. Zionism is also an inherently fascist ideology. The ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine has always been fundamental since it’s inception as a colonialist movement. Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history.
For someone using a text based medium, one would think you would have better reading comprehension skills.
I picked this handle for one reason: idiots make exactly the kind of comment you just made and feel very clever for it. This helps separate the wheat from the chaff, showing who is worth taking seriously and who might find tasks like tying shoeslaces to be particularly vexing.
I recommend this brand, by the way: https://www.amazon.de/LaceHype-Shoelaces-shoelaces-childrens-Reflective/dp/B09W3XL6LV/
It’s wildly antisemetic to equate zionists with jews; you’re just doing blood libel with extra steps.
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What the fuck are you talking about? I told you to stop conflating Jewish people with Zionists, because Zionists are literally committing genocide and have specifically targeted children.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for “harassment” but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
boy you have an entire conspiracy theory worked up already.
wow
It happened to me when I called out the moderators for censoring comments pointing out the role of the DNC in the genocide of Palestinians, so I’d say it isn’t wrong.
I think communities similar to reddit and lemmy are doomed. The site was never the biggest issue, it was the people.
I’ve seen “hexbear” but have no idea what it is, so clearly it’s not ruining anything for me.
It’s a Communist/Anarchist instance, Lemmy.world defederated from it before they had a chance to federate.
Hexbear, grad and .ml are the Tankie Triad, .world defed’s from Hex and grad because Hex is the worst, Grad is runner up. .ml tends to be more subtle about it and has largely avoided a more mass defederation movement like what happened with hex and grad
Cal xi winnie and see how sublte .ml are :D
LMAO tru tru, but unfortunately the tankie admins and mods of .ml are quick to enforce the subtlety by censoring (the irony for a group that is quick to accuse others of it lmao) those kinds of posts under their catch-all “RULE1”
.ml is not subtle, they just circlejerk within their sub a shit ton, rather than infesting other communities. Usually the idiots tend to congregate it seems.
I think you are the target of this meme, sir/ma’am
This thread brought out a ton of tone police lol
Wait, what do you mean .World isn’t Federated???
With hexbear specifically
Ah, thank you.
Some people still aren’t clear on the whole “federated” concept. But lack of understanding has never stopped anyone from posting opinions.
Hexbear is also just straight up dead rn, can’t see their shit til they secure a new domain
Hexbear can’t federate but you can see their content at: https://chapo.chat/
Lol
You’re right, we should focus on Lemmy.ml instead.
Please don’t
Why?
Their memes instance crashed and burned. Since then I don’t see the big deal.
I sure have lol
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
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They are not as extreme, but you cannot realistically have a civilized discussion on their servers. Unfortunately they are much more established with several big communities which are hesitant to move to more reasonable servers so while hexbear was an easy insta-ban for me and most other Lemmy users, we’re stuck individually blocking ml users for now.
But hopefully because of the idiotic choice of the ml domain, they will eventually go the way of hexbear.
Wasn’t the whole .ml domain an issue way back during the reddit migration too, cause its the domain for Mali? I remember it being an issue when I came over to Lemmy, which was back during that migration. When Reddit locked down its api and a bunch of redditors (me included) did a “blackout” to protest.
cause its the domain for Mali
Cyberspace colonialism.
Yes it was. That’s exactly what I was referring to.
How come nothing came of that?
They are not as extreme
IMO they’re just more subtle about it because they don’t want a larger call for defed to happen, I’m sure they all have alts on Hex/Grad where they let out their…“restraints”.
They’re very quick to deride .world as nothing but a “Reddit 2.0 CIA front propaganda machine” and yet won’t defed from it themselves…
I blocked the entire instance and I’m doing just fine.
That doesn’t really help retain newcomers any if we all just bury our heads in the sand
I mean, it’s better than nothing I guess
I did too but I still see the users. It just blocks all their communities.
I’m glad you’re using lemmy the way you want and not being weird and expecting the admission to block things for you. Take care, peace.
Don’t talk to me.
Yeah, I have “All” filter turned on and I don’t see any Hexbear posts. Now that I think about maybe that those who complain about Hexbear intentionally go there?
You’re on lemmy.world, which has been defederated from hexbear.net for ages. So yeah, somebody on your instance would have to go there so see their content, because your admin essentially blocked them for you. Anecdotally, I saw them on lemm.ee’s All fairly frequently before I blocked them, and I still see their comments on posts on other instances fairly frequently.
Plus, more recently hexbear has had to change domains and apparently because of this federation with hexbear isn’t working at all for anybody at the moment
Aren’t world the wokes/libs/whatever is the current pejorative
Nah world is full of liberals but they get real uppity when you start going after liberalism from the left
This is partly why I’ve chosen a different instance other than .world. I can control what is and isn’t in my feed, and it’s not like contemporary American centrist liberals have the best ideas when it comes to the current political landscape.
Compared to the rest of Lemmy they’re not very woke
Well the auth instances hate their wokeness
Apparently everyone’s a “lib” when you’re an authoritarian
American republicans have less than zero political literacy, and you are going off their understanding of liberal. Here’s a 300 page book going through what liberalism meant to every major liberal philosopher and how they dealt with the contradictions over the last 250 years or so. Guess which definition is used in any serious political work in the last 250 years?
To be clear I think using “liberal” to mean “socialist” is just as stupid as using it to mean “economically neo-liberal”. Most dictionary definitions concentrate on the actual definition of the word in everyday usage and then also mention the political theory definitions. Choosing your insult to be a word that most people assume means something else is a terrible way to communicate.
You’re not wrong, communists do have issues with effective communication. It’s not trivial due to definitions and framing propagated by liberal institutions being designed, sometimes intentionally, to make it more difficult to communicate our ideas.
Nope, Tankie is very clearly defined as “Authoritarian Communists”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
Little too close for comfort huh
You know how nazis always complain that people call them nazis and that it’s losing any meaning?
Yeah, same thing.
You know how Nazis always complain about woke stuff which does not exist in their life but they only read about?
Yeah, same thing.
liberal is the tankie version of screaming woke at everything.
Source: you
That’s a dilemma, how to know if someone yelling everything they don’t like is lib & woke is either a maga or a tankie
Tankies don’t scream woke, they only scream lib. Hope that helps
They don’t scream woke but they still hate discussions about marginalized communities because they are all privileged white class reductionists.
But it makes sense once you think about it. The patriarchy is about ten or twenty times as old as capitalism (depending on the definition). Of cause it will disappear once capitalism is abolished. Racism is about twice as old as capitalism. How could it function without capitalism once again?
But tbf hexbear does have a sizable trans community
It was more of a rhetorical question, no need to differentiate, synonyms and analogous terms can live in the same bucket
They’re the reddit users that think reddit 2024 is too left wing.
They’re the reddit users that believe the only thing wrong with reddit is too many ads.
They’re the reddit users that think voting is an effective measure in a captured kakistocracy.
They’re the reddit users that believe Biden is most left wing president in US history.
In short, yes.
They’re the reddit users that think voting is all you can do to end fascism.
They’re the reddit users that think if you question authority you must love the other party’s authority.
They’re the reddit users that think anything to the left of them must be ignored, and anything to the right of them is just misunderstood.
.world has more insufferable people than any other community, it has the most spots on my blocklist. I’d block the entire thing if it didn’t cripple my hobby communities and some of the few good ones from it.
It’s funny that the lemming above you is downvoted, while you’re upvoted lmao
I don’t understand it. Sometimes you agree with someone, you get downvoted and they get upvoted. Or vice versa. Or you’re downvoted like crazy, you come back after a few hours, the tallies are swapped.
I don’t get lemmy sometimes.
Commies always have huge block lists. It’s like their own private little gulag for thought crimes.
I’m glad you’re not the majority.
This is bizarrely funny to me.
That’s why the folks really worried about tankies make alt accounts to go hunting for bad takes to share with the unfederated.
World is federated, just not with absolute junk instances.
The point is that Lemmy.world defederated from Hexbear, so the complaints about Hexbear coming from Lemmy.world users frequently are based on second-hand information.
