• bitsplease@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an “uncorrupt government” is remotely possible.

    Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it’s remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

    There, now I’ve pissed off everyone lol

    Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really 🤷

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      1 year ago

      Luckily an entirely uncorrupt government is not necessary, since that is indeed quite unlikely to ever happen. It is enough to have low corruption, which is much more achievable.

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        Honestly at this point, even a low corruption government seems harder than balancing a boulder on a toothpick for the super powers of the world

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          Maybe so, but… That might be because China and America have too much international power. Power attracts the corrupt and global power attracts the most corrupt on the globe.

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            There’s a book about why power seems to attract this sort of people - can’t remember the name right now, might update later.

            In short, it’s not power on its own, but rather the systems we built around and for power, making it unattractive for people we want to end up in power, while the people who we don’t want to end up in power pursue it regardless because they want power for the sake of it.

            What I’m trying to say is, this is another issue that we can actually tackle and solve to a large degree. There’s hope!

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      same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it’s remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

      same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it’s remotely possible to transition a state to communism from authoritarianism.