• kandoh@reddthat.com
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    I’m not saying America was pro-nazi (though some were). I’m saying the US could’ve fought Japan and just continued to fund the Soviets. The red army was more than up to the task of sweeping through every country held by the Nazis after they broke them in the East.

    They didn’t though, they prioritized victory in Europe ahead of victory in the Pacific. That is because they were racing against the communists to liberate as much as Europe as they could. They were already planning for the next war.

    Remember how the justification for nuking civilians in Japan was so American soldiers didn’t have to give their lives taking the island? So why sacrifice American lives in Europe if you know the USSR is months away from totally steamrolling Nazi Germany? There has to be a geopolitical reason.

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      The Nazis may not get broken in the East without the Americans and the Allies in the West.

      We have plenty of things to be Anti-American about right now without trying to cherry pick, and oddly frame WWII.

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        22 hours ago

        The Battle of Stalingrad ended on February 2, 1943, with the surrender of German forces after months of intense fighting, marking a major turning point in World War II.

        D-Day occurred on June 6, 1944, marking the Allied invasion of Nazi-occupied France.

        Your response to me only makes sense if you think I am saying that the Soviets could have beaten the Nazis on their own with no lend lease program or the British holding out against the Nazis.

        Am I saying that? Can you quote one of the sections of my comments that is giving you that impression?

        If you would stop getting defensive for no reason and actually read my comments, maybe you’ll actually be able to understand what I am saying?

        Let me lay it out, as clear as fucking possible for you:

        • Americans provided material support to allies fighting the nazis

        • The goal of this is not to stop fascist ideology, but to keep the status quo maintained in Europe and Asia

        • The Soviets win Stalingrad and begin pushing west. Nazi defeat is all but inevitable.

        • American inaction here would result in a red german and red france. Possibly even red Italy and the overthrowing of Franco’s fascist regime in Spain.

        • Americans prioritize victory in Europe over the Pacific, even though the Japanese navy is the bigger threat to them.

        Ergo:

        • It’s not the defeat of fascism that the Americans were interested in, it was maintaining a status quo and preventing communism from spreading through Europe

        THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATRS OF AMERICA

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        24 hours ago

        There are several accounts pushing these strange lies about WW2. They don’t seem to be bots or Russian accounts but this bullshit has to be coming from people intentionally spreading propaganda and disinformation.

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          21 hours ago

          Sometimes it’s okay to discuss things and consider them from a different angle than the one you’re used to. It can help give you a new perspective on things. Broadening your understanding of things.

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          22 hours ago

          Does it mean that anonymous social media can’t exist without state actors using it to push propaganda?

          I also don’t want everything I’ve posted to social media to be attached to my resume when I’m applying for jobs.

          I’ve thought about some kind of system where a trusted actor would have access linking individuals actual names to pseudo-anonymous online identities. But one, that’s a stretch. Two, Elon would have downloaded that database first. And three, it doesn’t even fully solve the problem. Maybe you can make it a crime to allow foreign individuals to use your verified social media account.

          But all that’s just spitballing on the bleeding edge of social media. And our government isn’t exactly known for being on the bleeding edge of tech.

          I do think something like this could be good for the German government in particular.