“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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    “Over” with Putin having gotten what he wants after killing millions of Ukrainians and still occupying their land. So no, fuck Putin and fuck anyone who supports his insane bloody quest for glory.

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        1 year ago

        (edit) - Wow it’s only been like 24 hours since I’ve been on Lemmy and I’ve been in arguments with and been down voted by tankies and fascist supporters.

        There were plenty of people back in the day that said the U.S. should stay out of Europe and the Pacific. That we should just let the Nazis and Japan do what they pleased. Those people were either cowards or traitors.

        In the end, it’s clear one country is the aggressor and must be stopped before they wipe out the other. Your argument boils down to “nah, fuck them Ukranians, let them die because Putin wants it”. Nope.

        It’s Putin’s war. He can end it when he likes by getting the fuck out of Ukraine.

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          The US was involved in WWII from the beginning. They were just on the side of the Nazis. The State only intervened openly in the end to prevent the spread of communism. Then they made sure to rescue as many Nazis as possible and put them in positions of power in West Germany, the EU, and NATO, etc.

          Since that war, the US has been doing ‘what they pleased’, exactly what the Nazis and what Japan would’ve done. To this day the US tortures, runs concentration camps, and brutally oppresses billions of people around the world.

          Those who argued for the US to stay out were right then, and are still right today.

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            Or, we’ll bolster Ukraine’s military until they kick the shit out of the pathetic remains of Russia, they’ll rise up and kill Putin, and then struggle for the next few decades to get out of the dark ages that Putin sent them back into.

            In the end I don’t really give a shit what a tankie bot account has to say, so have a day.

        • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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          I have 2 quick questions 1 how can “Tankies” communists, Marxist Lenninists, The most anti-Facist folks you will ever meet facist supporters?

          Second how exactly is this Putin’s war, as far as I can tell it is Ukraine who violated the Minsk accords for years and that was the inciting incident for this whole thing, now if you could show me how I am wrong I am all ears, but I feel it is irresponsible to pin an entire war on the president of a nation, let alone the one who did not violate the previous agreement