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The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea, especially when the alternative for president is so dire.
I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes, especially due to all the media Zionists control and their lobbying power.
The Democratic president with the largest margin of victory in recent times was a black man and you’re still out here saying we need to court voters that won’t vote for a person of color in order to win. Maybe your read on the inherent unelectability of women is similarly flawed.
You again. There have been 2 women on the ballot and both failed, this latest with drastic consequences. So I’d say my read was 100% correct, unfortunately. I wish I was wrong.
More men have been on the ticket and failed than woman. The fact that both women failed is because of what they were running with, not because they were women. They were incredibly milquetoast candidates who ran basically on maintaining the status quo.
Obama won so handily because he ran on changing the status quo. Whether he actually did or not is a matter for historians, but that’s what he ran on.
Voters want someone who will fight for them. That’s what Trump, Obama, and Bernie are. They don’t want someone who sits back and talks about how grateful they should be.
Oh, well then let’s run a black man. They not only have 100% success rate, but massively outperformed all the white men. That must mean black skin (as long as it’s not on a woman) is an electoral benefit! Why take a risk with a white person? That’s the heart of your argument, right?
With a sample size of 2 you claim it’s because they were women. I agree with you it was faulty logic, which was their fucking point and the fact you missed that is incredible. Slow down and think.
The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea
So long as a progressive is a possibility and not one femtosecond longer.
I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes
So we have to (and you get to) support genocide forever too!
Not sure why I’m being down voted - I would have noted for kamala and I wish she was president. I’m saying that if there’s an option to take a risk now when failure means death then it’s best to not take the risk and wait for a time when the alternative is only pain. Trump was death, we all knew. Not a good time to take a risk. It would have been better to wait to take a risk in trying to elect a woman for the first time in a country of people who think its okay for a person held to the highest standards in the land to say ‘grab em by the pussy’, pay women for sex and be a rapist of women. Even aside from the racism. If you don’t see that then I’m shocked.
I’m saying that if there’s an option to take a risk now when failure means death then it’s best to not take the risk and wait for a time when the alternative is only pain.
It’s neat how quickly timidity develops when the party wants to shut out a progressive. That’s the only thing this has ever been about.
The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea, especially when the alternative for president is so dire.
I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes, especially due to all the media Zionists control and their lobbying power.
The Democratic president with the largest margin of victory in recent times was a black man and you’re still out here saying we need to court voters that won’t vote for a person of color in order to win. Maybe your read on the inherent unelectability of women is similarly flawed.
You again. There have been 2 women on the ballot and both failed, this latest with drastic consequences. So I’d say my read was 100% correct, unfortunately. I wish I was wrong.
More men have been on the ticket and failed than woman. The fact that both women failed is because of what they were running with, not because they were women. They were incredibly milquetoast candidates who ran basically on maintaining the status quo.
Obama won so handily because he ran on changing the status quo. Whether he actually did or not is a matter for historians, but that’s what he ran on.
Voters want someone who will fight for them. That’s what Trump, Obama, and Bernie are. They don’t want someone who sits back and talks about how grateful they should be.
See my reply to your friend. Won’t be wasting my time on you people any longer byeee
Oh, well then let’s run a black man. They not only have 100% success rate, but massively outperformed all the white men. That must mean black skin (as long as it’s not on a woman) is an electoral benefit! Why take a risk with a white person? That’s the heart of your argument, right?
That’s faulty logic as you well know, based on a sample of 1.
With a sample size of 2 you claim it’s because they were women. I agree with you it was faulty logic, which was their fucking point and the fact you missed that is incredible. Slow down and think.
So long as a progressive is a possibility and not one femtosecond longer.
So we have to (and you get to) support genocide forever too!
Not sure why I’m being down voted - I would have noted for kamala and I wish she was president. I’m saying that if there’s an option to take a risk now when failure means death then it’s best to not take the risk and wait for a time when the alternative is only pain. Trump was death, we all knew. Not a good time to take a risk. It would have been better to wait to take a risk in trying to elect a woman for the first time in a country of people who think its okay for a person held to the highest standards in the land to say ‘grab em by the pussy’, pay women for sex and be a rapist of women. Even aside from the racism. If you don’t see that then I’m shocked.
It’s neat how quickly timidity develops when the party wants to shut out a progressive. That’s the only thing this has ever been about.
Well, I guess you learned nothing from this and would enable trump again.
I guess you know the party is going to shut out progressives forever and love it.
And I get that every centrist interprets all criticism of their party as trump support, but I voted for Harris.
I’m not american and I’m not a centrist. I’m a libertarian socialist. Have a great day now :)
So you don’t know much about American politics and toe the centrist line. Ok.
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