If anything, cannabis seems like a much better (and more profitable) drug around which to build a leisurely establishment.

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    If they replaced individual bars rather than expanded the space where drug consumption is the basis of socializing.

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      I don’t smoke weed, but phrasing it’s usage as “drug consumption” always annoyed me. It makes it sound like it’s the same thing as heroin or meth, which it’s not even close to the same thing.

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          It isn’t. And when people say “drugs” they’re almost never talking about alcohol anyway, unless the conversation is literally about the designation of what constitutes a drug and what doesn’t, which is convoluted as heck.

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              Yep. I can’t stand this “oh, weed is harnless” attitude a lot of people have towards cannabis. Its an intoxicant like any other, and should be treated as such.

              The amount of friends I have who think that they’re fine to smoke and drive are too damn high.

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          From what I recall weed is considered less harmful and addictive than alcohol. Most recent study that caught my eye was from New Zealand. Alcohol was somewhere on the top along with heroin. THC somewhere in the middle ranks.

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            Sure, alcohol is pretty bad. But I’ve been disappointed when looking up places to hang out, so many of them are some kind of bar. I’m fine with people using drugs on their own time, but I’d like for there to also be places where people don’t.

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        Heroin, amphetamines, alcohol, and cannabis all have genuine medicinal uses, and also all can be abused depending on context. Drug consumption is a fine, value-neutral term, which can refer to both their use and abuse.

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          The war on drugs generation has had that reality tainted though mate. There are a lot of (mostly ultra conservative religious types) people who see drug use as the same whether it be meth or weed. And they don’t see beer the same way usually.

          But in a very literal sense you’re absolutely correct. But we’re having a conversation about perception here.

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            people who see drug use as the same whether it be meth or weed.

            But they are correct about this part, there is no ethical or moral difference between using amphetamines and using cannabis.

            And they don’t see beer the same way usually.

            Well, they’re incorrect about that part. But I’m not going to change the way I talk just because other people are wrong. Think about it: I’d never stop changing the way I talk.

            But we’re having a conversation about perception here.

            Absolutely.

            I worked as a chemical dependency counselor for years with all types of addicts. To me, alcohol is scarier than all of them. Quitting drugs is never fun or easy, but alcohol withdrawal will kill you straight up. One cannot quit cold turkey. In my opinion, alcohol is the hardest drug yet invented, it just also happens to be more socially acceptable than the other ones. Challenging this perception is something I care about quite a bit.