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      Came here to make this (half)joke.

      Sadly, it’s not just a joke, it’s also the only way to actually do this.

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        It’s not such a joke for about 70 percent of the people who use a computer. All most people do is use the internet, write a document or two and check their email (most of the time using a web based service).

        All of which can be done by any OS.

        The only reason anyone would want Microsoft is if they specifically ran a program that required Windows … most will say that MS Word runs better on Windows which is true but most people I know write or view the most basic documents that any word processing software is more than adequate.

        And even if MS word is required by your school or work … get them to pay for the OS and the word processing software.

        Otherwise, the majority of the people I know with a computer only use it as a glorified tablet to access the internet and browse social media … all of which can be done with the most basic Linux distro that won’t hassle you with annoying popups asking you to do things you shouldn’t even be thinking about.

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          There is virtually no difference between running Word 2007 on modern Windows or under Wine, and I don’t need to use 365 (which is pushy about features in the Home tab and had a terrible redesign). I might pirate Office 2013 at some point if its compatibility rating increases. Still, I prefer LibreOffice unless I need to share the document.

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      I recently moved to Linux mint after years of thinking it would be hard or wouldn’t offer the tools I needed. I’ve been extremely pleasantly surprised! I’ve moved over fully, working in CAD, spreadsheets, all the normal stuff without any hassle. And none of these pop ups anymore.

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          Residential metal work. Kind of complex things. Dining from AutoCAD and inventor. Still learning it but now using bricscad. Freecad seems ok but like it’s cobbled together by a bunch of volunteers 🤣😜

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        Hi, what do you use for spreadsheets? I’ve tried librecalc but so far its a major hassle - the cells are way too small on my 1440p monitor and I cant figure out how to fix it.

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          You just need to zoom in. To make sure it applies to everything, completely close librecalc, open a new spreadsheet, zoom in using the slider on the bottom right, or ctrl+scroll up, until the cells are a good size for you, then close it and that should set the value as the default for all your sheets :)

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      I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

      Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

      There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

      But seriously: another comment here points out some tool

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        Then Microsoft will either tell you to use Edge and Bing (or else!), or just set this automatically.

        I had this issue on the windows box at work. For some time, whenever I opened Firefox, it told me that it was not set as the default browser. I fixed this, only to get the same message again the next day.

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          Are you sure it’s not just your IT locking in the default browser? I for sure never had this problem before.

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              I’d say it might be a borked install, then. I’ve had some windows installation that doesn’t lock in settings properly, which is fixed after a reinstall. The reinstall is mostly because I’m too lazy to troubleshoot the actual reason.

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      Last distro I installed for personal use was Ubuntu and it was lousy with these types of popups (note: this was about 10 years ago)

      Edit: It’s really bizarre to me that nobody remembers how intrusive and persistent Ubuntu One was (decom’d 2014), though in fairness it’s not precisely what OP is experiencing with regards to Bing/Chrome

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      Side note as an ex-Windows user (from Windows 3.1 - W10) - Go with OSX and all the Windows-ification plugins you can find.

      Apple out windows Windows.

      If I didn’t game so much, I’d go to all Linux and OSX devices.

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        gaming on linux has gotten MUCH, MUCH better over the past handful of years. I’ve been on linux exclusively for 6 years and in that time ive gone from using Lutris for everything and only installing the few verified titles through fairly complex wineconfigs other people made, to a brief check of protondb before installing whatever i want from Steam and having it work out of the box. basically the only things that don’t work anymore are competitive anticheat softwares, like Valorant’s.

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          Gaming in Linux is fine but it would be a crime to not mention, getting mods to work on Linux is still shit

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              Oh my god, any game that either relies on nexus or a mod launcher, take your pick, I mean sure, it’s doable, usually if you have a windows pc to install the actual mods on and copy the file directory over, but that’s a slim chance that it’ll work, if you’re having no problems missing you’re probably playing Skyrim

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                But the thing is, mod launchers have been working fine for me through wine. Though most games these days have integrated steam workshop support anyway.

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              Mods that are installed by moving files (which covers most games) work fine most of the time; you’ll probably need .dll overrides.

              Mods that need certain libraries can be a hassle, or mixed bag (eg. RSMods for Rocksmith 2014 (CDLCs work fine though), RDR2 Mods based on ScriptHook.NET).

              Mods that require a launcher are hard or impossible (pretty much anything on the Frostbite Engine. I think this is your best bet with it. Don’t know if OpenIV currently works on Linux or if you need a VM with shared folders to use it).

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          If a game doesn’t support Linux I refund it. Haven’t had to refund in a good long while.

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          This comment is honestly incredibly thought provoking. When you really think about it and the whole of games that just work on Linux now thanks to proton, there really isn’t a game outside of games with proprietary anti cheat that don’t work, and even then, some do like Apex. There really isn’t anything out there keeping me on Windows.

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              That’s kind of the unfortunate thing about VR. The most attainable HMDs are provided by shitty companies like Samsung and Meta who have no incentive to support anything other than Windows. Besides that, high fidelity VR is prohibitively expensive.

              There were rumours some time ago of Valve working on a standalone, semi modular VR system. I hope it comes to market, as I’d imagine it’d have the potential to be much more affordable (at some level) than the index.

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              That’s interesting, I have a Samsung Odyssey plus, but I’ve honestly never used it outside of half life alyx. That was when I was still dual booting with Windows 10, now that I’ve beaten alyx and realistically there’s not a ton of replay value, I don’t really have a need for VR.

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            Sadly Clip Studio just doesn’t work on WINE at all so I have to dual boot exclusively for that little shit required in my classes.

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          Yeah but it’s a trade off; if you want to tinker go Linux, if you want an OS that works really well with the hardware it was designed for go Mac. Not sure why anyone would use windows honestly.

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            Those that a) use whatever comes preinstalled on the computer (and Windows is on the affordable ones); b) need software that’s not available on Linux. But yea, I would say that most people I know wouldn’t even notice a switch to Linux. There are distros that “just work”.

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          My MacBook Air and Mac Mini may not be internally upgradeable, but they didn’t cost any more than comparable Windows machines.

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        Switching to Apple looks to be expensive. OP may not be able to use their existing machine and would have to spend a few thousand to buy a Mac. All that just to avoid an annoying pop-up?

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        Linux has come a long way with gaming fortunately. I daily drive fedora and use Proton-GE/Wine-GE and can play most games with the exception of some problem ones (Assetto Corsa & Rust, I’m looking at you).

        Only time I ever fool with W11 these days is when I use Studio One for music or play on of the (very few) problem games some friends want me to join them on. I’d recommend checking out the Nobara distro for games.

        Not surprising OSX is a better Windows in some ways. Switched to iPhone last summer for my daily driver and don’t regret it. Best mobile experience I’ve had since my custom ROMs days on Android. Even started out setting up app folders to copy my Nova Launcher setup. That said, I’ll be excited when more privacy respecting options come around to the mobile market for my next phone.

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        If you’re going to the trouble of learning a new OS, IMO you might as well just go straight for Linux. Gaming is a lot better on Linux than on OSX as well.

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    Got this via Mastodon which will not let me search for the source.

    If you’re in the US, when you set up Windows for the first time, select English (Europe) or English (World), not English (US). That will stop it installing all the bloatware that US citizens are not protected from but everyone else is.

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      It’s definitely a US thing, I’m on English (Singapore) and have not seen an ad, ever. I was perplexed by all the complaints of ads in the start menu and wherever, until someone pointed to me that it was a US thing.

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      You must switch back to English (US) after installation if you want access to Microsoft Store (and even if you don’t, you probably should because most apps are now there).

      I’ve seen a few tools to suppress most telemetry such as ChrisTitusTech’s winutil or O&O ShutUp, maybe you could give that a try. Microsoft is really pushing hard Bing & Edge…

      Also, as a Linux user, I must obliged to the rules and say there’s alternatives out there if you want to try something new. :-) !linux@lemmy.ml

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        What exactly are you getting from the Microsoft app store out of curiosity?

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          Windows Terminal + WSL, everything related to Xbox if you’re using Gamepass or “Play anywhere” titles (Xbox/PC cross-buy).

          Most basics apps are from the Microsoft app store too; calculator, calendar, paint, etc.

          It’s been a hot minute since I’ve used Windows, but you’d be surprise how much apps are now updated through that app store.

          If your device use Windows in S mode, all your apps must come from the store & you must use Edge.

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            Ah okay, I didn’t know people used it that way and I don’t do XBox game pass or anything like that. It makes sense. My only real experience with windows store apps has been my work computer trying to install a “personal use” version of Microsoft teams from there and apparently I had to get the professional version through M365 downloads.

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      We leave in Japan, and my wife had that popup once already (using Brave on Win10 - surface laptop)

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        From what I’ve seen online, it must be done during installation. So short answer, no.

        As others have said, you could also backup your data and do a fresh installation (from a boot media, not from Windows itself just to be extra safe).

        ThioJoe also has a video talking about this English (Europe/World) thing and also provide a Powershell script to delete Windows bloatware. This option could be interesting if you don’t want to reset your whole installation.

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        Throw all your important stuff onto a drive thay doesn’t contain the OS. Then remove the drive and wipe the computer. You can set it up again and choose the non-bloatware options.

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        I doubt it. Don’t know if a fresh install would, or if you can get it fresh enough to work.

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        I like how anyone who mentions Linux is now a neckbeard. If you even dare to complain about how shit MS has become (they’ve always been shit, but it’s more obvious now) then you’re somehow a neckbeard. You didn’t say the solution wasn’t valid, just attacked them because there isn’t another solution. Put up with MS’s shut, Apple’s shit, or find a Linux distro that suits you. Your choice.

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          No one has a problem with complaints about Windows, it’s the “just install Linux lol” mentality that invites mockery.

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            You can choose whatever you want for whatever reason you want, but don’t spread misconceptions on the internet. With Proton, if you install a newb distro there is literally no reason to touch the commandline at all for what you want to do.

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              The fuck is a distro? Linux bros can’t say a single sentence about how “easy” Linux is without using some terminology that proves it would actually take quite a bit of research for someone unfamiliar to make the switch. People don’t want to do that. They want an OS that works without having to take a mini CS course.

              You really don’t seem to understand how big the gap is. The things you think are easy or intuitive are far from it. Most people can’t even figure out how to download something from GitHub, and you think Linux is right for them?

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                People don’t want windows either, they just use it because it came preinstalled.

                Yes there are people who will never install any alternative OS for themselves but there are plenty of people who would if they knew about other viable options.

                I’m willing to bet most Linux users used to be windows users at some point. So its not futile to evangelise.

                Also pick a noob distribution/flavour such as pop_os and the installation is no different than installing windows. Download your browser, steam and office tools and just use it.

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            You can do all that with Linux and there are plenty of distros where you minimally need to use the terminal or don’t at all. Linux has distros for people who want windows without Microsoft. You only need the terminal if you’re a power user.(Android is Linux, but you never hear anyone complain about having to use the terminal or anything. Linux is the most used OS in the world, you just don’t realize it because it can be anything.)

            It’s funny that people can have opinions without any actual knowledge. It’s a weird thing. How does that even happen? We can feel very strongly about things, and often so strongly that we ignore all countering information just so we can maintain our beliefs, as if it’ll hurt us to change them. Humans are weird.

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    Why does it seem like any issue with Windows is met by “INSTALL LINUX!!!”. If the check engine light on my car comes on I am not going to buy a truck.

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      Yeah you could probably just install Linux on your car and bypass that light instead of buying a truck.

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        Why spend a lot of time installing and configuring and learning a bunch of stuff when I just want the error code cleared?

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          Because in this case, the error is “we’ve detected you’re not drinking Ford branded tea, click here to subscribe to our tea service!” along with many other codes that aren’t that hard to individually clear but gives a clear indication of how MS sees its userbase.

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        It this case, also more environmental friendly, repairable and improves self-determination, independence and the local economy.

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        Switching to Linux isn’t free. There are significant time, opportunity and switching costs involved.

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        Better is debatable. For the average dev, Linux is an obvious improvement for most development tasks. For the casual user? Not even Ubuntu is 100% out of the box yet. I’m currently working through the migration to Ubuntu as my main OS and there have been things where I 100% had to open up a terminal for (or something similarly manual or confusing), which is typically not an option for non-developers or the technologically disinclined. Most Linux diehards seem to forget that not everyone is technologically literate, especially when they push the latest fork of a fork of a branch of arch with barely any UI or support for familiar applications.

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          You got me curious.

          What exactly had you going for the terminal? Although not a fan of that distro in particular, I must admit they were the ones who made a significant push to make Linux more accessible to every one.

          I’d risk 97% of end user machines nowadays are ready to go after going through a standard install of Ubuntu.

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            I think the first thing was Windows’ fault (and also the fault of my dual boot setup, which i imagine most casual users won’t be going for) - apparently “Fast Startup” means doing some hardware shenanigans that prevents Ubuntu from hooking into the motherboard’s network adapter.

            After disabling that, I had to install a specific version of the nvidia graphics driver (535) from a PPA to get all 4 of my monitors working. Before that, I couldn’t configure display settings at all because my screens would flash for too long and prevent me from clicking the “Keep Settings” button. And before that, only one monitor worked and the other three were black screens that I could move the mouse to, but couldn’t move applications to.

            And finally I had to figure out how to set a “default” audio device because apparently this isn’t a configurable thing (that I could find). I noticed I would have to manually set my audio device after every reboot - after enough reboots I found that there is a command to list audio devices by ID and to set the active output device by ID, so I added it to the list of startup commands. Honestly this one is the most perplexing because I would think setting a default audio device from a list of multiple would be some pretty basic functionality. I’m guessing that I probably just missed it, or gnome hides it.

            After that is mostly gaming setup stuff. I would consider it to be common knowledge that most games aren’t intended to be run on Linux, so I don’t mind some difficulty there.

            Slightly unrelated, I have learned that apt purging openssl is a huge no-no and am now reinstalling Ubuntu again entirely :)

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              I can’t speak for the Nvidia issue. (Only that it is widely know that Nvidia actively works against Open source and only just has begun changing their stance, so Nvidia support is still poor on Linux. Their proprietary drivers aren’t great either. I stick to AMD since using Linux, they work great out of the box)

              But the audio issue baffles me. Under Kubuntu with KDE I just klick on the Loudspeaker in the systray and choose the device. It even remembers it over unplugging and replugging devices.

              Image of mentioned audio selection popup with radio button before the devices

              Rgarding openssl: Thats the price you pay for freedom, you can change the system how you want, even into non working states ^^ BTW: You can repair such mistakes with a LiveCD even major ones like this.

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              I had a dual boot where windows would from time to time rewrite the boot and the system would just load into it.

              Because it was an older motherboard it still had IDE and SATA; after some research, I found someone saying it was a BIOS “feature” where the default master HDD was alway on the IDE channel. The solution: get rid of the IDE disk (and windows along with it).

              The rest of what you describe remembers my own misadventures when I started. But back then at 2006 and with Debian.

              I’ve read articles where people were saying that even running the NVidia Quadro boards was very much anti-climatic, with the biggest hurdle being installing the proprietary drivers.

              And when it comes to games, WINE is going very far to make many things works where they were never intended to. And many titles are already being shipped with penguin in mind

              Have fun!

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            I wish. Both at home and in the office, we rely on too many Windows-dependent applications that do not work on Linux.

            I run Ubuntu as my main OS since I can kinda do what I want with my laptop at work and obviously control my personal laptop as well, but everything production-wise at work is Windows on the client side, and I still have a Windows PC for gaming for games that require anti cheat that isn’t supported on Linux.

            I vastly prefer Linux but Windows is a far lower friction/barrier to entry for most.

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              People resist change because of familiarity or, even worse, it’s the crap that comes preloaded with every computer and some idiot told them they void warranty if it is removed (this is illegal nowadays but many shops still float this idea).

              I can understand specialized applications but the bulk of office work does not require it. And industrial applications even prefer linux as it means they can tailor the software to their specific uses.

              I was writing this and what came to mind was a conversation on a podcast where journalists were at some point debating they could not live without their Apple computers, while complaining how expensive they were.

              They write text! Any freaking OS can provide support for at least two dozens of text processors.

              It’s mostly about perception, in my view.

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        My car serves my needs more than a truck does. Not only is it easier for a wheelchair user to get in, I can load/unload easier and it’s more comfortable for me to drive.

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      But if your car has flat tires every 3000 miles, the engine explodes occasionally for no reason, the dash display keeps telling you about accessories you don’t want instead of your speed, and the factory door locks are coat hangers twisted into an O ring, then shopping around seems like a good idea.

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      The fundament of GNU/Linux and Windows are totally different. The annoying things with Windows are just symptoms of the underlying principle, which is to milk you as much as possible. It’s like switching from smoking to not smoking

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      While I wouldn’t comment something like that myself, as I think it’s not productive, it’s quite strange as a Linux user to see these posts like “The makers of the OS I use on the computer I paid money for and now own are trying to screw me over in a new way today. How can I fix it?”

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      To be fair, the chance of that not being the default response on Lemmy was pretty slim.

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        The thing I am now curious about is if this is, quite predictably, Lemmy’s existing culture, OR if they were having a perfectly good time in their clubhouse until all the most insufferable Redditors came charging in here.

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          I’m kinda wondering the same thing, minus the “insufferable” part. (Then again, maybe the original Lemmy users do consider us “insufferable” for messing up Lemmy’s culture? Who knows?)

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          There were a lot of linux users before too, c/linux was one of the most active communities, about the culture it could be better but at least all the tankies have been drowned out

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      Normally it happens the other way around but here on lemmy the popolation of LMR is just big enough to for once turn tables.

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      Because we’re nerds.

      LMR should have been more helpful in this thread, but, more people installing Linux will solve more issues with Windows beyond a pop-up. Maybe Microsoft will actually improve their OS instead of putting FUCKING ADVERTISEMENTS IN WINDOWS 11

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      What about “INSTALL A DIFFERENT OS!!!”? Is that better? There are reasonably two others to choose from, and one of those doesn’t require the purchase of expensive equipment and arguably a path into an even more controlled ecosystem.

      And your analogy is way off. This isn’t a malfunction of Windows that a technician is going to fix, never to be seen again. This is more like a rep from the car manufacturer meeting you at your car every morning to ask if you want to install their factory upgrade. You tell them that you never want to see them again, so next week they start sending a different representative. You have no other options.

      Well, except getting a free car that doesn’t send a rep.

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        Yeah but the free car requires an hour of troubleshooting every time you get in

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    Edge/Windows is literally the technological equivalent of an obsessive ex-girlfriend.

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    Use software like shutupwin10 or various other open source debloat scripts to remove a shit-ton of annoying features in windows. Or, as lemmy galaxy-brains would have it, JuSt uSe LiNuX

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    I’d like to mention Windows 10 LTSC here. It’s an official Windows 10 Edition from Microsoft, designed for enterprise and embedded usage. Therefore it has no bloatware, no annoying feature updates, no ads and only the absolute minimum of telemetry. If you don’t like Windows but somehow have to use it, this might be the right choice for you.

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      Out of curiosity, except obviously people who don’t use Windows, who would it be the wrong choice for?

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        If you use modern hardware it doesn’t behave quite well and gets worse battery life. If you use any tools from Microsoft (WSL, Office, Windows Terminal, etc) most of those are incompatible or a pain to install. If you use anything from the Microsoft Store, including Game Pass, since it just doesn’t include the Microsoft Store.

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          That’s somewhat wrong. I had no problem installing WSL, Office or Windows Terminal, and they all work fine. The only thing that’s actually a problem is the missing Microsoft Store, but since I’m not using it anyway it doesn’t bother me.

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      Are you actually bots? I can’t believe you would suggest either chrome or bing if privacy is a concern to you. It’s firefox and duckduckgo all day, every day…

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        I mean, if I was a bot, I’d probably be more productive.

        I think you might have meant to ask if I was a shill. But in any case, OP specifically asked a question in relation to using Chrome and related to being pressured to use Bing. While my suggestion was pretty tongue-in-cheek, it was still on topic. You saying “Use Firefox instead” is kind of a poor answer that might appeal to your bias, but isn’t really on topic for this question. I would guess that OP is aware of other browser options.

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    How about you galaxy brain “just switch to linux” people actually give some helpful advice? Clearly there’s a registry edit that can be made for Windows users that would take all of 5 seconds to complete, rather than an entire week formatting, installing, reconfiguring an entirely new OS that also requires a degree of command line knowledge.