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Dude, they did, under Biden’s IRA. The one you just tore up.
Jesus, dude. This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.
This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.
Putin: perfect!
Oh, sure. Spend billions on moving factories to a xenophobic, undereducated, and burgeoning fascist society instead of expanding into more stable, emerging markets without an unstable fuckwit for a leader.
I mean, that’s exactly what happened with China
Yeah because it was cheaper labor. The US does not have that level of cheap labor.
It doesn’t have that level YET.
That’s also not how that works. China can get away with having cheap labor because it also has cheap cost of living. But the cost of living in the US is ridiculously high. These tariffs are only going to make the cost of living go up.
Yet
Possibly however unlikely.
Surely Americans would riot once they can no longer afford a Big Mac.
An hour of labor hasn’t bought a big Mac for about a decade iirc.
because it was cheaper labor
at some point, eventually, maybe… american’s will come to realise chinas economic growth and domination of manufacturing and technology is built on a far more sophisticated suite of policies (good and bad) then they have been brainwashed into believing.
huawei isn’t huawei bc they pay their employees less.
you should jump on a plane and check it out, genuinely fun country to travel in and you will learn a lot.
no im not a tankie, taiwan fucking rocks.
That’s a dumb argument, labor in the 80s when we started to shift heavily into China was factually orders of magnitude cheaper and they had almost no labor regulations. Now sure they have more protections but that isn’t reflective of years gone by.
Or they can just stop providing products and services to america and expand in Asia, Europe and Australia
I thought he was against immigration.
Illegal immigration. That’s what he’s against.
No, I don’t like Trump, but I don’t feel the need to let people lie about him. I’d rather shit on him accurately, thank you very much.
Unless you provide $5 million, then it doesn’t matter, right?
See- this is a problem. Illegal immigration means one thing, but people hear it and think of a family speaking spanish in the grocery store and assume them to be what ‘illegal immigrants’ are. People just ascribe anything vagely unknown to them as ‘illegal immigrants’ and want it gone not realizing that most of the time the people they are imagining are here legally. It’s still racism but with a technically safe cover word, but many are hearing one thing and thinking another.
So when everyone is talking about illegal immigrants they could mean completely different things depending on who you talk to.
What they mean is:
Hispanic person who went through years of wait-lists and followed every step of the process to the letter of the law = Illegal Immigrant
White person who bribed immigration officials to get expedited entry = Legal Immigrant
Step 1: Move to the US
Step 2: I.C.E. deports all immigrants (both lawful and unlawful ones)
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Declare Bankrupcy? (because you don’t have anyone to hire, since, you know, they deported everyone)
Does he really think businesses pay the tariffs? I doubt it
He knows they don’t but he doesn’t have to pay them and he couldn’t bring himself to care about anyone else.
Are you really trying to find some logic in what Trump says? I think it should already be obvious he has no fucking clue how the economy works.
If we want to be generous with his interpretation he means that if you uproot your entire business (including production) and bring it to the US then you don’t need to pay tariffs because you’re making it all inside the US. Except anyone with even the slightest understand of the entire production process knows that it’s effectively impossible in the timeframe he has forced upon everyone. So we still end up with him having no fucking clue what he is doing.
He actually thinks companies can say “hey, let’s move all our shit to the US!” and they can snap their fingers and they’re instantly here. Like they don’t have to buy land, build factories, setup supply chains and work out logistics that would take a long time to do. Fucking moron.
Dumbass didn’t learn from the Foxconn shit in Wisconsin lol
Oh, so immigrants are ok if they’re companies?
Immigrants are OK if they’re legal (Musk still needs his foreign workers because “Americans are mediocre and lazy” according to his friend Vivek Ramaswamy) 😂
I thought companies were considered people in the US
Caucasian people though. So it’s okay.
He means he’ll drop tariffs in companies start building here. Problem is, factory owners aren’t stupid enough to invest in a factory that will become obsolete when these idiot tariffs are dropped.
Even if I had absolute confidence that the tariffs weren’t going to get dropped there would still be no point moving a factory to the US because you would still end up paying the tariffs to get imports of components from China. Because you are definitely getting your components from China.
That’s why tariffs have to be used with tact and they only target very precise items. If you want to increase the number of televisions produced in the United States you only have a tariff on completed televisions, not on displays, and not on microcontrollers. The Trump tariffs are on everything though.
Tariffs do not work.
Even if you just target one item, like this moron did with washing machines 8 years ago, what happened?
Imported washing machines went up 25% in price.
Domestically produces machines went up 25%, because why wouldn’t they gauge more money??
Tariffs only hurt the consumer.
The Trump tariffs are on everything though.
Yeah, he has a tendency to just take a shotgun approach, and later see what sticks. He won’t care about any fallout caused by his approach.
“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”
Professor William T. Kelley, who taught marketing at the Wharton School of Business and Finance when the orange one was a student there (source)
He also doesn’t read. Ever. The only book he is known to possess (a gift) is one with speeches by Hitler. He probably hasn’t even read that one. He had also real trouble reading the teleprompter during the campaign trail and seemingly ignored it most of the time.
Yes, I read that too. Not the president the US needed, as he is simply unsuitable for this office due to his lack of education alone, but apparently the one the country deserves, as he was elected despite everything everyone can and should know about him.
Over half of US citizens can’t read over a sixth grade level. So he really does represent a majority of US Americans in that regard.
Yeah, there’s a LOT of evidence that Trump is functionally illiterate. He just scrapes by with telling people he doesn’t have time to read, or having people read things for him.
The guy tweets constantly, with recognizable characteristics such as random capitalization that I don’t think you can do with speech-to-text. He’s a dope for sure, but I’m sure he can read. Maybe he has bad eyesight and too vain for glasses.
That’s why I said he’s functionally illiterate. You can read and write at a basic level and still be considered illiterate if it’s not enough for what society would expect. Literacy is a spectrum; Someone who reads at a first grade level may be able to read a dinner menu, but probably won’t be able to read the newspaper. But as long as they’re not put in a situation where they’ll need to read in front of others, they can scrape by with just that basic level of literacy.
Trump’s tweets are often only at a first or second grade level of writing. His word choice draws from a surprisingly small dictionary, and he typically avoids words that are more than two syllables long. He also continuously disregards even the most basic punctuation, capitalization, spelling, and grammar rules.
Back before reading was really commonplace people could still read shop signs and things, but they couldn’t really spell and anything more complicated than Chicken sold for $0.30 was probably beyond them, but that’s all the average person needed.
How someone can be functionally illiterate when they were born in the mid 20th century is beyond me.
That’s not true. You’ll get terrified to hell and back by Canada and other reasonable countries
Trump always talks like a dummy who is fed half baked ideas by someone only slightly smarter than he is.
Isn’t that exactly what’s happening?
He sounds like a toddler who learnt a new word explained to them by their slightly older cousin.
If companies move to the UK there’s/actually/ not tarrifs.
They can move to the U.S. and then pay tariffs to import the parts, and have a smaller international demand for the product do to retaliatory tariffs and just straight avoidance of U.S. products while making their product in a higher cost to operate area. OR they can build a mine, pay higher lifting costs, higher wages, produce a much more expensive product of shitty quality to keep the price hopefully low enough that they can still have a demand for the product abroad, but everyone will coorelate their American products as shit because they cut corners to try to keep the costs low enough while having higher expenses. So no one wants their product. Or they could not cut corners and make a great product that costs so much that their market shrinks down to inoperable levels and go out of business.
You’re not getting it. He said it in ALL CAPS, so the globally-connected economy doesn’t actually exist. Tariffs punish BAD GUYS and have no effect on GOOD GUYS. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Yeah they need to move their forests and mines to the USA!
