cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37176575

Anyone studying anarchist cybernetics ? Or like some form of anarchist economics/planning ?

I general how would market be abolished in anarchist society, and what steps can be taken now to go towards that goal ?

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    Our industry is constantly growing, the amount of money does not grow to match that. And if they would then there is bickering who gets to create that new money.

    So they created a system with the banks that is theoretically a zero sum game where no nation has a real advantage and new money can temporarily be created till its it accounted for when its paid back. The banks create the money for their client, if they trust the client will be able to pay it back in a reasonable time with interests.

    But if the national deficits are any proof this zero sum game does not work. The deficits of nations only increase and everyone knows they cant be paid off. To pay off of the old loans and the interests we just make new loans and we somehow don’t consider it a problem that we rely on more and more loans over time.

    There is technically nothing stopping a nation from just ignoring the deficit and use infinite money except massive backlash and peer pressure from outer countries.

    But because we are factually wasting so much, being so unsustainable and on the brink of self-annihilation. Would it really matter if governments just spend as their civilians actually need like housing and food for the poor? Is that worse than what shell is doing?

    Just because the money is infinite doesn’t mean this system has no limits because in total we will always be contextualized by available production and how many people want to work to produce it. The economic puzzle turns from a financial one to a logistical one.

    I am using terminology like nation loosely here. Could be local collectives, could be a mom-ai

    What i mean with profit = loss is that when a company makes profit, it’s at least partly to do new things with. But then they are basically extracting money from the economy without perse needing it at that point. Then when they do invest in a new building the costs are hidden in that past profit and because everything is for profit the price wont lower after that project the’ll still asking more then actually costs.

    In my system you measure the cost to produce and that is a fixed value of measurements that is passed on the consumer. Any deviation is a different kind of loss that should be measured separately. Optionally also passed down like “stored at x for 6 months” is an additional costs but you can never say an item suddenly costs less because market changes because then you would be saying that suddenly the ecological costs for those materials no longer matters.