it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?
What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.
That seems an expectation formed based on opinion of how things should work, and not in any way a reflection of how US capitalist policy has ever actually worked throughout history.
It’s exactly how it works for people with highly specialized skills.
Yes, when they are in conditions that afford them reasonable employment protections. The chipmaker’s visa would make slaves of them. If they quit, they’ll be deported back to China, and I expect charged with treason when they get back.
Why would people from Taiwan be deported to China? Even if the US wanted to punish them, Trump hates China more than anybody else.
With a growing number of ARM and RISC-V manufacturers out there, people with these skills are in high demand. You’re completely off base.
The whole point of the chips act is bring chip manufacturing to the US so we’re no longer disputing sovereignty for Taiwan to protect the chip manufacturing industry. If we get to the point that we have imported laborers from Taiwan manufacturing chips in the US, the US will no longer be defending Taiwan the way it is now, and it will be firmly under China’s control.
Any indentured servants here on a chipmaker’s visa will be fully aware that quitting their jobs will likely result in deportation back to China, and all of the legal ramifications they’ll face back at home. This is already an issue with h1b’s, and will be dramatically worse under this new visa with all of the foreign policy issues intertwined.
So many issues here. I’m sorry but you deeply misunderstand a lot of things about chip manufacturing.
These really, really, really are not laborers. They have nothing to do with labor. These engineers are effectively the same level of cutting edge as the scientists the US picked up after WW2. They are literally national resources - valuable pieces on the international game board.
No, they don’t get deported to economic rivals. Ever. They are not cheap labor. They are line-item assets in the military-industrial complex.
If we treated MIC line-item assets well, Lockheed wouldn’t be constantly battling their workers’ union. And these people brought in from Taiwan will enjoy almost none of the same protections, including no fucking way they’d be allowed to unionize.
… You really do not understand the nature of the game that’s being played here, and that’s okay. Feel free to keep thinking of world-class scientists as nothing more than indentured servants. Again, extremely xenophobic to dismiss their intelligence and personal volition, as if they’re just slaves waiting for america to import them.
I understand that’s how it should work. You don’t seem to understand how things actually work in a reality run by capitalists.
If society actually worked the way you seem to believe it does, it would be merit based and the richest people would be these world-class scientists. In reality, the richest and most successful people are those who can enslave and exploit those talented people.
You also seem to be accidentally injecting your own xenophobia and racism, because you keep bringing it back to that. As if you believe there’s some eugenics reason that people from Taiwan are talented chipmakers. I assure you, people from the states could perform just as well given the same opportunities and education investments here. They would rather import these people to treat as indentured slaves.
The US supported Taiwan for ideological reasons long before TSMC was a thing. Your reading of the situation is completely bunk.
Yes, it used to only be about our global fascist anti-communism war crime spree.
And still is, so your point is still bunk.