Allow 2 Sidebars, one for tabs, one for extensions (or alternative)
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I really like the sidebar, and I think vertical tabs are amazing, even though really new. I want to make a lot of extensions like "side view" that open a website as a sidebar popup, for example a dictionary. This would be really useful. But currently the vertical tabs are in the same sidebar, so a s...

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come on guys. 30 likes, 14 people gave a kudo? What kinda like is that? “Cool bro but not gonna make an account lol” IF YOU WANT THIS, GIVE IT A REAL LIKE

If you want, vote for my proposal to allow 2 sidebars in Firefox!

Firefox gets vertical tabs and a sidebar, cool huh? And you can open pages as sidebar popups, for example a small dictionary page, or a notepad or whatever else!

But when using vertical tabs and these site popups, it looks pretty ugly and pushes the main site to the edge.

Having a sidebar and a vertical tab bar would fix this.

Current state and mockup as images attached.

This is how it currently is: the sidebar and the vertical tab bar are the same. Placed extensions are unintuitive and popup windows (like Mozillas SideView or dedicated extensions) are next to the tabs, pushing the main website even further to the side

current state

This is how I would like it to be. A sidebar and a tab bar. Extensions go on the sidebar and the tab bar is just for tabs. The browser view is centered and clean.

(Tbh I would like tabs on the left but I am too lazy to edit the mockup)

    • Propheticus@lemmy.zip
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      24 days ago

      It’s configurable from the sidebar dropdown menu, e.g. when opening your bookmarks (Ctrl+B): dropdown menu with sidebar options

      But you can also use this about:config setting: sidebar.position_start set to false

      Again you keep calling it a popup, but it really isn’t. It does not pop up or overlay the browser viewport, it sits on the right and pushes the viewport left reducing its width.

      • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netOP
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        24 days ago

        It is kinda a popup. On Firefox if you change that config, the unified tab-sidebar moves around so this is useless.

        Seems that Zen might do something different and not use the sidebar after all

        • Propheticus@lemmy.zip
          1·
          24 days ago

          A popup is overlay / in front of your viewport or UI, the sidebar is not in front of it. If what you see is (like a) popup, you’re talking about the web panel, which a different concept Zen added. Indeed in Firefox the vertical tabs are part of the sidebar and thus they can’t be move independently. In Zen, the vertical tabs are NOT part of the sidebar, and thus you can move the sidebar to the right while the tabs remain on the left.

          • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netOP
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            19 days ago

            Yup smartass, I am not talking about something on top. I mean the thing that expands out of the sidebar like a menu or whatever, reducing the usable space for the webpage, making it really useful, unlike that overlay thing Zen has

            • Propheticus@lemmy.zipEnglish
              1·
              19 days ago

              Yup dumdum, I’ve tried to explain that Zen also has this expanding ‘thing’, but unlike with Firefox it can be placed opposite side of the vertical tabs. If you for instance press Ctrl+B and you get the expanding thing (sidebar) with bookmarks. Just like in Firefox it expands and reduces webpage space. The overlay is something else, called the web panel. Something Zen introduced which is additional to the sidebar and not a replacement of it. I’ve even taken the time to show it in a screenshot, but apparently that makes me a smartass.

              • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netOP
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                18 days ago

                Interesting that this works. So it must be possible, I will try it first though and then comment there.

                Thx for your time