A few months back Firefox announced it was finally adding support for Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) after years of ignoring its own user's requests to do
I dont use many PWA’s since I had to run them on chromium before. But as a web Dev and even more so as a user, I feel like PWA’s are the way to go. They completely avoid all the app stores drama plus the 30% fees. Also the devs get to deploy instant updates without the delay going through the app stores. Just like any other web app. If done right I could see them replacing most native apps. Assuming we can get apple to allow PWAs full CPU usage. Currently they are throttling them from what I understand.
Edit: To clarify I’m speaking about mobile. I’ve never even tried PWAs on desktop and can’t imagine why I would use that over browser+bookmarks.
My only problem with PWAs is that they have arbitrary security requirements. Anything non-localhost needs https. No self-signed cert allowed.
Enforcing people to buy a router that supports dyndns for their self hosted apps is odd. I’m wondering who makes these rules.
Yes, they did that when the EU made the ruling about allowing other app stores. Apple doesn’t like PWAs cause they lose their 30% cut. Hopefully we some ruling or law that they have to treat them equal to native apps.
Which would probably have Jobs rolling in his grave. He was all for web apps. Hell, their first attempt at widgets on macOS were just web apps. That’s why he was so adamant about getting rid of Flash. He knew the technology was viable.
I dont use many PWA’s since I had to run them on chromium before. But as a web Dev and even more so as a user, I feel like PWA’s are the way to go. They completely avoid all the app stores drama plus the 30% fees. Also the devs get to deploy instant updates without the delay going through the app stores. Just like any other web app. If done right I could see them replacing most native apps. Assuming we can get apple to allow PWAs full CPU usage. Currently they are throttling them from what I understand.
Edit: To clarify I’m speaking about mobile. I’ve never even tried PWAs on desktop and can’t imagine why I would use that over browser+bookmarks.
And FWIW, Firefox already supports them on android; this is about desktop support.
I was going to say, “am I losing my mind?” I’ve had PWAs on Firefox for years. I’ve never once cared to use one on the desktop I guess.
But it’s easier to block trackers & ads on a PWA, and life made me very cynical about “the industry” 😅
My only problem with PWAs is that they have arbitrary security requirements. Anything non-localhost needs https. No self-signed cert allowed. Enforcing people to buy a router that supports dyndns for their self hosted apps is odd. I’m wondering who makes these rules.
You can do DDNS for free, using a client app on your server, rather than router.
I use cloudflare-ddns
Didn’t apple disable PWA’s in Europe?
https://www.techmonitor.ai/digital-economy/big-tech/apple-reverses-decision-to-ban-progressive-web-apps-following-user-backlash it was. But, they bring it back
Yes, they did that when the EU made the ruling about allowing other app stores. Apple doesn’t like PWAs cause they lose their 30% cut. Hopefully we some ruling or law that they have to treat them equal to native apps.
Which would probably have Jobs rolling in his grave. He was all for web apps. Hell, their first attempt at widgets on macOS were just web apps. That’s why he was so adamant about getting rid of Flash. He knew the technology was viable.
PWAs are god awful on IOS.