People in this thread who stated the tattoos were clear criminal evidence.
https://www.irishstar.com/sport/soccer/donald-trump-salvador-real-madrid-34923654
Reminder that before all this El Salvador was sweeping up anyone and I mean anyone they found on the street during their sweeps and throwing them in huge overcrowded cells to await mass trials without representation.
even more damning that the populace has cheered for it; non of the human right abuses matter so long as it’s not them.
With tattoos
Thanks to modern technology we can watch the whole thing unfold in real time!
It seems this new technology is not much benefit in stopping it? Observers are great, powerless and disorganized ones not so much.
Too many people live in willful ignorance
You can see the obvious big picture and scream from the rooftops, but everyone who is comfortable enough and in denial that things are actually that bad straight up just ignore you
It’s only now that people are starting to get their wakeup calls, like a lot of Europe, for example
But god, if it isn’t super frustrating to watch the local news in my European country and have politicians repeatedly say “nobody thought we would be standing here talking about this 4 years ago”
I did, fuckers! I did!! The fascist threat was obvious ever since the first trump presidency, and the trends could clearly be seen from even before then, however, I was a child at that time
I don’t get it. Especially because politicians are supposed to be the experts in trends like this. Is everyone just fucking clueless??
I swear most people are just so neoliberal ideology brained, and heavily struggle seeing anything outside of that. It’s been a massive failure on the part of society that political philosophy has not been a bigger part of the education curriculum. Or part of it, at all.
This sums it up nicelyI’m not sure how relevant this is outside the USA; but when I was helping build grassroots for social activism in Texas - I realized people had forgotten how! Their grandparents could, and did. I saw it as a child.
But something happened over two generations, and the knowledge was not handed down, or was not applicable when things changed so much .
I remember enough to know critical things in the community is missing. I suspect a major missing piece is that people stay indoors too much.
Same in Germany. I don’t know what it is either but I’m convinced it’s related to the loneliness epidemic among the younger generation. People have seemingly stopped connecting in meaningful ways in general. No more religion, no more sports teams, working from home and getting your social interaction fix through social media. I think all of this is seriously starting to take its toll.
Everybody works too much yet they can’t afford anything. Going out to do anything costs money and not a trivial amount, and everyone’s too tired after working so much to go anyways. Combined with bad work schedules it makes for a truly antisocial combination. Consider the fact that at one point in the 20th century the average British man spent more at the bar than he did on housing. That’s not good for your liver but the point stands that it’l was possible to do that and not anymore.
It’s a European tradition to spectate torture and execution for entertainment.
fuck yeah, subcontracting out the concentration camps!
The picture on the left is from when the prison first opened, so won’t show any of the deportees
Oh hell. OTOH, I’d imagine we have no reason to think it’s looking better these days.
Still, thanks for the correction, I took that as I found it.
Dachau didn’t open until 3 months after Hitler took power. They are right on track.
Next week:
You know what, it’s fine. At least you’ll be sitting in a lower ring of hell than me for laughing at this. 😌
You see, it isn’t so bad, they can sit up!
Remember kids, fascism only ends one way.
Only one way, but there are many ways to approach that way. My favorite is the Italian method.
My favorite way to approach them is the donkey punch method as well!
Hitler specifically called the U.S. treatment of indigenous people an inspiration, and used it as his basis for treating Jews, gays, communists, intellectuals, and all the other victims of the Third Reich. tRump and his Fourth Reich is just coming full circle.
A little reminder, apparently Salvadorians are loving Bukele for this.
I tried reminding them that, removing due-process is a can-of-worms that you rather not open
there are people in other parts of latam that want that same shit in their own countries…
where there are marches asking where the people that were “disappeared” during the dictatorship went.
well i guess they weren’t against it, they were just really curious. like at a magic show!
Ok, so I’ve never been a “meme” guy and think it’s stupid we have to force everything into the “meme” format but seriously, this is not a meme. I don’t think it should be removed but just sayin.
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I think you need the /s so people know this is sarcastic.
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I can name about 30 very tatted people who have never committed a crime that I have personally met. Tattoos are not an indicator of criminality.
I mean, things have different meanings depending on your local culture. I think it’s much rarer for normal people to get tattoos in El Salvador than where you love.
Well they lived in the US. Hence the deportation. Which is also where I live.
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Let’s see what they look like 2 years in. The Buchenwald picture was taken at liberation.
Edit - also as someone else pointed out, although the picture is from the El Salvador camp, it is NOT a picture of the same group of people discussed in the article. I did not know that when I posted.
So which parts of the picture are true?
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Those are send by Trump without any sort of trial. Nothing to do with El Salvador cracking down hard on gangs.
I’m inclined to ask you to re-read your comment because I really can’t make sense of it.
The first paragraph doesn’t make much sense at all given how it is written. In the second you say “it saved the country,” and if you’re trying to say that forcefully deporting people out of America without reason or due process “saved the country” you’re 100% going to have cite a source, or at least give a reason for why you think that’s true.
I get what he’s saying, but he added like no context so everyone is confused (including him because he seems to not realize the OP is about Trump)
The president of El Salvador is famous for taking a “hard stance” on gangs, by basically doing the same thing Trump is doing. He rounded up thousands of suspected gang members and threw them into forced labor camps without any kind of due process. That’s why Trump is sending these immigrants to El Salvador, because the president is a vicious dictator who doesn’t care about human rights.
It has been a massive scandal for a while in LatAm news, but it’s the same tired old strongman bullshit you see in many places in South/Central America (and now in the north too!). Effective propaganda and control over the military means the problem won’t be solved without foreign intervention and/or a spontaneous combustion event involving government leaders.
I think in the first paragraph, he meant El Salvador. Said country had huge gang violence problem which Bukele improved, but at the cost of severe human rights violation.
Given the edit, I think you’re right even though the post is clearly about Trump deporting people without due process.
Are you defending the pic on the left or the right? Or both?
Some of you may die, which is a sacrifice, I’m willing to make.
i think you make some nuanced points.
fixing things is messy and sometimes, even your enemies can deliver improvements. i’m not so mired in politics i can’t see objectively. i still think the administration should be toppled by any means necessary if we want to truly save america from eternal dystopia.
