• OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Agreed, well said. This train of thought is why I’ve never been able to identify as an atheist.

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      1 year ago

      If you think that humanity might possibly find evidence of a god in the future, that still makes you an atheist today.

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        1 year ago

        Lol, what? That’s absolutely not the case. What do you think the difference between atheism and agnosticism is?? Atheism is the belief that there is no God, period. Nothing waits for us after death, just oblivion. Agnosticism is the belief that there’s something out there, we’re just not sure what.

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          1 year ago

          What do you think the difference between atheism and agnosticism is??

          Generally none. I assume the “agnostic” part whenever someone says they are an atheist.

          Now gnostic atheism is a different beast entirely.

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            1 year ago

            Then you’d be talking about someone who thinks we’ll never know if a God exists, which is an agnostic atheist. But atheism and agnosticism by themselves aren’t the same.

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          1 year ago

          That’s absolutely not the case.

          It absolutely IS the case. If you don’t believe in a god, you’re an atheist. End of story. If you’re open to the idea of there being a god, but don’t believe in any of the ones presented thus far, you’re still an atheist.

          Agnosticism is the belief that there’s something out there

          That’s incorrect. Agnosticism is the idea that “the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable”. The idea there there’s something out there is not agnosticism, it’s just really weak theism.