• Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    8 days ago

    I know what article you’re referring to, and it was bullshit. Bullet ballots and all sounded great, believable. Evidence with easily verifiable numbers.

    But when I went to verify those numbers with actual election results, they were all bullshit. Swing states did not have the bullet ballots numbers he claimed. There was no big discrepancy between swing states and the states next to them.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      8 days ago

      There’s great to hear, but I’m still rather lost on why nc has a Democrat governor then. Do you still have your analysis handy? I’d love to see the details. I wasn’t able to figure it out myself :-/

      • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 days ago

        Here is the bullshit article (that sounds good).

        https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

        One of the claims is

        North Carolina is the most extreme.  The public results indicate over 350K voters cast a ballot for Trump and no other race making up over 11% of Trump’s voters in NC drop off votes or bullet ballots.

        https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/north-carolina/?r=0

        Donald Trump: 2,898,423
        Kamala Harris: 2,715,375
        Jill Stein + Chase Oliver: 47,000
        Total: 5,660,798 roughly

        Governor: 3.069m + 2.241m + 280742 = 5.60 million

        That’s not a difference of 350k.

      • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 days ago

        The governor is easy to explain, the Republican candidate was never well liked, and then it came out that he specifically called himself a black Nazi and the Republican party threw him under the bus.

        The lieutenant governor and attorney general remain odd, but that’s NC for you. They sometimes just vote Democrat for statewide State races and then vote republican federal.

        I suppose the counter question would be if they were manipulating the votes directly, why not also rig the down ballot election?

          • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            7 days ago

            While that’s true, even Trump will throw a few hollow words in support of other Republicans and declare himself a Republican and knows the result is his life is easier with Republicans victories.

            In a hypothetical cheating scenario, it’s not like Trump directly did the cheating, some broad conspiracy across multiple states would require a number of players, coordinated since the “evidence” is similar dropoff across many states. Any such conspiracy would doubtless recognize the strategic value of allies also winning, even if they didn’t care about the allies directly. Such a conspiracy would be keyed into the same sentiment that wants to do everything they can to install conservative loyalists across the executive and judicial branches as quickly as they can. There’s no way such a conspiracy would neglect legislators and state governments if they had given themselves that opportunity.

            The drop offs could be explained much more simply that MAGA is only about Trump and not about Republicans. If Trump only cares about Trump, the same can be said if his followers. Most of them will vote R as long as they are filling out a ballot anyway, but they barely even show up for Trump loyalists in the midterms. So it’s quite reasonable to expect a bunch of Trump people to just go in for the one thing they care about and ignore the rest.

            • surewhynotlem@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              7 days ago

              This makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

              (I know I’m not adding to the conversation, but I feel like a silent upvote doesn’t do justice to the effort you took to write that)