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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
In my head transhumanism is this cool idea where Iād get to have a zoom function in my eye
But of course none of that could exist in our capitalist hellscape because of just all the reasons the ruling class would use it to opress the working class.
And then you find out what transhumanists actually advocate for and itās just eugenics. Like without even a tiny bit of plausible deniability. Theyāre proud itās eugenics.
@V0ldek @gerikson youāll have the zoom function, but 80% of your field of view will be covered in ads.
@fazalmajid @V0ldek @gerikson plus itās zoom as in video conferencing
@V0ldek @gerikson Iāve seen the stories of people whose medical devices stop working because the supply company either went out of business, was sold, or stopped supporting those devices
If thatās already happening, what kind of subscription fees will the Transhumanist Corporation charge for Cost of Living?
@V0ldek those transhumanist guys really think that it wonāt be them to be weeded out by applied eugenics ā¦
@V0ldek @gerikson after reading a book written in Cyberpunk 2077 universe, I had bitter though about why the hell we couldnāt have cool body modifications if we already have to live in cyberpunk world. But cyberpunk things we could have are surveillance and powerful corporations.
@madargon @V0ldek @gerikson @techtakes Obviously you read the wrong cyberpunk. (Go root out Bruce Sterlingās short story ā20 Evocationsā, collected in Schismatrix Plus, and youāll see an assassin having his arms and legs repossessed because he canāt kill enough people to keep up with the loan repayment schedule ā¦)
@madargon @V0ldek @gerikson
Because Cyberpunk isnāt about buying and having. Itās about making. The violence and greed is the reason cyberpunks exist: as a counterforce, not as enforcers.
Play IRL in Hackaday instead.
@V0ldek @gerikson š I donāt think so ā¦ https://youtu.be/DqPd6MShV1o
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@V0ldek @gerikson This is why we need a different term for those of us who want arbitrary augmentation to be available for everybody, without any corporate/fascist/TESCREAL pollution.
@KatS @V0ldek @gerikson āWanted: helper. Gig/1099 only. Must have Zoom Eye v3 or later implanted with active subscription to apply. $7.25/hourā
@timjclevenger @V0ldek @gerikson Exactly the kind of pollution Iām talking about not wanting.
@V0ldek@awful.systems yeah quite a few people have seen only the very top surface of transhumanism, and then sun it off with their own ideas and world building without engaging on a deeper level sometimes intentionally sometimes not
I, like many trans people Iād suspect just wanted out of this unsatisfying body and didnāt engage beyond that to any meaningful level
@V0ldek @gerikson transhumanism has nothing to do with eugenics lmao
it would be nice if people ever read the history of their favourite thing
itās extremely established that it does
@froztbyte how to tell me you dont know anything about transhumanism without telling me you dont know anything about transhumanism:
type the words ātranshumanism eugenicsā into ddg and see what comes up. but mostly just fuck off tbh
@froztbyte I think @d4rkness is eliding a few steps that look clear to them, but theyāre basically right: eugenics is about all transhumanists can do *today*, a lot of transhumanism is warmed-over Technocracy (the Musk familyās ideological wellspring), Technocracy was *def* on board with eugenics (and apartheid), so here we are: they aspire to more but eugenics is what they can do today so theyāre doing it.
(Iāve been studying transhumanism since roughly 1990 and thatās my considered opinion.)
Iād agree there, and it might be that thatās what they meant, but as you say it still doesnāt leave the two things disconnected. didnāt see them heading in the direction of amusing debate, however!
(Iād wondered from your past writings how long youād been looking into this shit, TIL the year!)
sorry, all the mental pretzels were taken up by the other poster a few days ago, youāll have to contort your nonsense yourself. best avoid the history books though, theyāll make it really hard for you to achieve what you want
@froztbyte but its not