• doug@lemmy.today
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    If I were religious I would absolutely think Trump is the Antichrist.

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      When I was 8 or so, I prayed that god would wait to start the 7 years of tribulation until after I graduated college.

      I graduated in 2019. Sorry guys.

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      There’s an entire serious sub called (r/trump666). They are more level headed than you’d expect and downvote and mod people too far out there. They have a lot of deep serious discussions on which of the four horsemen Trump and Musk are. They seem to mostly disagree on which person is which dragon/beast/horsemen. Although, I think there’s an agreement that RFK Jr. is Pestilence haha

      It’s all over my head but this concept is strong enough now that people devote significant time to reading the lay-lines.

      Coincidentally my old handle on Gawker was a photo of Trump and my name was “DiabloHimself.” But that was back when he wasn’t running for office and just tweetsulting Roseanne.

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      I wondered about it, but it seems he has to put himself in the place of Christ and require people to worship him instead (to “anti” Christ…) to really qualify. I think he is till pretending to be a Christian, so we may not be there yet…

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        The bar to being an anti-christ is pretty damn low. There’s also no limit to how many exist all one needs is to deny the divinity of Christ. It’s just that easy!

        There some conflation with the “Man of Sin/Lawlessness” though who is supposed to be a “fierce King” who appears at the end of times and “will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed."

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        I literally said the same thing to my wife last week. I grew up in an extremely religious household. I am not religious at all now, I haven’t been for decades. But I made the joke that it would be hilarious if after all these bible thumbers voted for him, and he turned out to be the Antichrist 🤣🤣

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      There was a web site dedicated to a proof that Trump has all the characteristics of the antichrist whereas Obama only has a few.

      I can’t seem to find it.

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        Glad to make your acquaintance and I hope my presence has brought some joy to your day so as to offset the points lost from the ant I stepped on this morning.

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        Not just Christian, not all of us believe in an antichrist. Even among biblical literalists it’s not 100%. Rapture, too. I don’t believe in either

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            Revelation (no ‘s’) doesn’t really have the narrative that “Biblical literalists” think it does. The Beast isn’t said to be the Antichrist - the “Antichrist” isn’t mentioned in Revelation at all, only in John IIRC - a lot of this is coming from Scofield and Darby. People before the 1800s did not believe in the narrative of “there’s a rapture where Christians disappear, the Antichrist takes over for 7 years, all of these prophecies are fulfilled, and the Jesus comes back.”

            It’s basically all made up through connecting unrelated passages in Daniel and Ezekiel. Premillennial dispensationalism is new and not reading the Bible “literally” at all.

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                Guaranteed to have a typo when you nitpick spelling, but that sentence works well when read in a Ricky Bobby voice.

                The “Revelations” thing is a really funny way to pull off the classic atheist power move of knowing the Bible better than a Christian. Great for trolling eschatological TikTok and Facebook accounts.

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                  C’mon, Revelation vs Revelations is child’s play. Everybody knows the real name is the Apocalypse of John.

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                  Agreed on the “revelations” thing. Once that tidbit sticks in your memory you just see people using it incorrectly everywhere.

                  Maybe it’s a Baader-Meinhof effect thing, but I think it’s genuinely a very common mistake that’s very easy to make.

                  Same with daylight saving(s) time. I hear other detail-oriented people add that S all the time.

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                Could be an Antichrist, could be a natural desire, could be Emperor Nero, could be something else. Being a “Biblical literalist” isn’t really something that makes sense, because at some point you do have to accept that some things are metaphor. The line being drawn is arbitrary, even if “literalists” don’t like to admit it. Revelation is especially obtuse and symbolic - though it does make sense if you realize it’s probably about Nero and John of Patmos was tripping balls on some kind of psilocybin.

                Revelation almost didn’t even make it in the Bible - the Shepherd of Hermas was more popular. I don’t think Jerome liked it.

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                    Yeah - and the fact that the book is weird as fuck is how Scofield and Darby (and later Hal Lindsey, Jenkins and Lehaye etc) were able to convince even people who don’t believe in the Bible that’s it’s some sort of hyper specific end times prophecy instead of the more likely reality that it’s a bunch of gematria (math magic games) and random symbolism as secret hints that Nero was a dickwad.