I think you’re getting caught up in the state being abusive and controlling to it’s citizens (as Dump is doing now) and society self-regulating itself for it’s own benefit (something that happens in all social groups) as being one and the same. Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.
As an outsider whose overton window isn’t calibrated to US norms, it’s because the “Democrats” aren’t anything like left wing, same as “Labour” in the UK.
They’re both neoliberal centre-right parties masquerading as left wing for votes.
What you appear to be deeply emotionally connecting to “left wing” is simply authoritarianism, which is neither left or right, and exactly the playbook Trump is reading from.
You would be well served to read some political theory explainers that aren’t US based. It may open your eye to exactly how hard you’re about to be fucked over the barrel by those that are supposed to be serving you, not themselves. 💛
What I’m trying to say, oh wise seer, is that you’re voting in accordance to your political views, except the only thing you’d love to see change is democrats becoming as much of edgelord losers as republicans.
‘now sit down’ lmao do you think you sound like a tough guy? Is that what your bullies used to say or something?
First of all, screw the Democrats they are not left wing. They are center right shitlibs, with a few milqtoast standouts like Bernie and AOC.
Second. You correctly look at democrats and see they are just Republicans lite, but your mistake is in thinking that going further left leads to greater power to the state to curtail speech, thought, and action. The left wants liberation. Economic and social. The power of government to celurtail speech is not liberation, it’s oppression.
What have far left (or far right, or even centrist) politics got to do with it? This is about what’s socially acceptable. Yes that feeds into politics and left/right/centre opinions, but I’m not discussing politics (nor was the person you replied to). Which ties in with my first comment that you’re combining politics with social issues erroneously.
Ultimately abuse is, abuse, is abuse, no matter how you dress it up.
One thing I agree with you on is that it isn’t necessarily always abuse, however the original post is about that group of friend’s chat, which I believe is abusive in nature from what has been shared (and hence why so many people have disowned them) and which you turned into (and are still rambling on about) some political somethingor another…
Again, this has nothing to do with politics.
You know nothing about my political beliefs so are shouting into thin air. (I’m not even from the US so can’t even ‘be’ a Dem! Oh boy.)
This has nothing to do with politics, did I say that already?!
I think you’re getting caught up in the state being abusive and controlling to it’s citizens (as Dump is doing now) and society self-regulating itself for it’s own benefit (something that happens in all social groups) as being one and the same. Just because someone calls out another person’s bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.
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I think you need to work on expanding your political theory into more dimensions
Theory? It’s just vibes-based politics with these people. They don’t actually think lol.
Your comment is good btw; I’m not attacking you
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As an outsider whose overton window isn’t calibrated to US norms, it’s because the “Democrats” aren’t anything like left wing, same as “Labour” in the UK.
They’re both neoliberal centre-right parties masquerading as left wing for votes.
What you appear to be deeply emotionally connecting to “left wing” is simply authoritarianism, which is neither left or right, and exactly the playbook Trump is reading from.
You would be well served to read some political theory explainers that aren’t US based. It may open your eye to exactly how hard you’re about to be fucked over the barrel by those that are supposed to be serving you, not themselves. 💛
Lmao my man here thinks that the American democratic party is leftist, that’s hilarious.
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What I’m trying to say, oh wise seer, is that you’re voting in accordance to your political views, except the only thing you’d love to see change is democrats becoming as much of edgelord losers as republicans.
‘now sit down’ lmao do you think you sound like a tough guy? Is that what your bullies used to say or something?
Oh hey there, I don’t have skin in this part of the comments - just want to say I’m stealing “Is that what your bullies used to say.” Savage as hell.
First of all, screw the Democrats they are not left wing. They are center right shitlibs, with a few milqtoast standouts like Bernie and AOC.
Second. You correctly look at democrats and see they are just Republicans lite, but your mistake is in thinking that going further left leads to greater power to the state to curtail speech, thought, and action. The left wants liberation. Economic and social. The power of government to celurtail speech is not liberation, it’s oppression.
What have far left (or far right, or even centrist) politics got to do with it? This is about what’s socially acceptable. Yes that feeds into politics and left/right/centre opinions, but I’m not discussing politics (nor was the person you replied to). Which ties in with my first comment that you’re combining politics with social issues erroneously.
Ultimately abuse is, abuse, is abuse, no matter how you dress it up.
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One thing I agree with you on is that it isn’t necessarily always abuse, however the original post is about that group of friend’s chat, which I believe is abusive in nature from what has been shared (and hence why so many people have disowned them) and which you turned into (and are still rambling on about) some political somethingor another…
Again, this has nothing to do with politics.
You know nothing about my political beliefs so are shouting into thin air. (I’m not even from the US so can’t even ‘be’ a Dem! Oh boy.)
This has nothing to do with politics, did I say that already?!
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