You’re right. If I don’t buy cheap shit, I won’t get cheap shit. And since “made in China” is a byword for cheap shit, I try to avoid Chinese products.
My home was made in America. My car was assembled in America, and afaik, most of the parts came from Mexico and Japan. My microwave is Japanese. My shirt is from Taiwan. My computer is made from a ton of chips, Taiwan chip fabs. My tools are all made in America. I can go on.
Very little of what I have was made in China. Because China makes “cheap shit”. Your words, not mine.
You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don’t have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it’s the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned. And the absolute cheapest will often come from China, despite needing to cross an ocean.
A “made in America” sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff “made in America”, it just won’t be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever…
I sincerely doubt that. And last I checked, most chip fabs were not in China. There’s a lot in South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. And there’s plenty in damn near every western country. Even the Netherlands has a few.
You need to realize that countries other than China have industry.
Your phone was made in China. Most of the components were manufactured in Taiwan. Same goes for every chip in your car, and very likely for your Japanese microwave too.
None of those chips for your computer, your phone, or your car were made in the US, and thanks to Lil Donnie’s tantrum against the CHIPS act, none of them ever will be.
Nearly every company in the world that has an international presence uses chinese parts somewhere. And no, you racist count, made in china is not a word for cheap shit, it’s a word for made in a factory. You can’t avoid chinese products at this stage of capitalism. Your made in japan microwave? It was assembled in japan. It was made in china hence why you can get the brand less version for half price on aliexpress.
Country labeling is a joke, wherever the final assembly takes place is where the label gets put on, specially because racists like you are too stupid to tell the difference and it sincerely hasn’t mattered since before most people were born.
And you are stupid for not acknowledging that people from other countries are not just useless consumers without any agency. Americans and Europeans have industry too, and very productive ones. The narrative that you can trace any product back to China is entirely wrong and reeks of tankie.
The west has spent a half century outsourcing their industry to feel like they’ve done any environmental work (and to lower wages). That has affected all industries, in all western countries.
Ever use anything with a pcb? Congrats it was partially made in china. Any industrial electrical components? Any microelectronics for non computational work? Hell most steel fab is in china. Half the us’s packaged fruit travels through china for packaging.
Your owners and masters have spent a long time ruining domestic companies for the sake of profit. Don’t take that out on chinese people, take it out on your owners and masters.
They’ve earned their reputation.
By producing everything you use in life?
Don’t buy cheap shit you won’t get cheaply made shit.
You’re right. If I don’t buy cheap shit, I won’t get cheap shit. And since “made in China” is a byword for cheap shit, I try to avoid Chinese products.
My home was made in America. My car was assembled in America, and afaik, most of the parts came from Mexico and Japan. My microwave is Japanese. My shirt is from Taiwan. My computer is made from a ton of chips, Taiwan chip fabs. My tools are all made in America. I can go on.
Very little of what I have was made in China. Because China makes “cheap shit”. Your words, not mine.
You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don’t have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it’s the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned. And the absolute cheapest will often come from China, despite needing to cross an ocean.
A “made in America” sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff “made in America”, it just won’t be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever…
The propaganda campaign for chinese goods not being scams just started this week dude, give it time and I’m sure the west will fall
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I sincerely doubt that. And last I checked, most chip fabs were not in China. There’s a lot in South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. And there’s plenty in damn near every western country. Even the Netherlands has a few.
You need to realize that countries other than China have industry.
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No good reason except basic pattern recognition.
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Last I checked, China was a country. I think I won whatever shitty argument this was
Your phone was made in China. Most of the components were manufactured in Taiwan. Same goes for every chip in your car, and very likely for your Japanese microwave too.
None of those chips for your computer, your phone, or your car were made in the US, and thanks to Lil Donnie’s tantrum against the CHIPS act, none of them ever will be.
My phone was made in Vietnam. And last I checked, Taiwan is not part of China.
You cannot be that ignorant. ‘Made in X’ in a such globalized and distributed economy is nothing but a matter of tax design.
Yes, they are different countries, and they will continue to be the countries that make the tech products you buy at an inflated, tariffed rate.
Nearly every company in the world that has an international presence uses chinese parts somewhere. And no, you racist count, made in china is not a word for cheap shit, it’s a word for made in a factory. You can’t avoid chinese products at this stage of capitalism. Your made in japan microwave? It was assembled in japan. It was made in china hence why you can get the brand less version for half price on aliexpress.
Country labeling is a joke, wherever the final assembly takes place is where the label gets put on, specially because racists like you are too stupid to tell the difference and it sincerely hasn’t mattered since before most people were born.
And you are stupid for not acknowledging that people from other countries are not just useless consumers without any agency. Americans and Europeans have industry too, and very productive ones. The narrative that you can trace any product back to China is entirely wrong and reeks of tankie.
The west has spent a half century outsourcing their industry to feel like they’ve done any environmental work (and to lower wages). That has affected all industries, in all western countries.
Ever use anything with a pcb? Congrats it was partially made in china. Any industrial electrical components? Any microelectronics for non computational work? Hell most steel fab is in china. Half the us’s packaged fruit travels through china for packaging.
Your owners and masters have spent a long time ruining domestic companies for the sake of profit. Don’t take that out on chinese people, take it out on your owners and masters.
Taiwan is independent, and they have a lot of chip fabs. I think you have an inflated view of Chinese industry, must be all the lead in their paint.
China does everything better than the US. iPhones are made in China.
Yeah, like slaves! America is so bad with slaves, we gave it up 150 years ago! But China, China is rolling the slaves! China perfected slavery!
the US constitution specifically has a carve-out that allows using prisoners as slaves
So what? China has slaves galore! A veritable slave emporium! A slave for every man woman and child. That is, if women had rights in China.
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