• octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    Depending on topic, they are either OK with it, that I’m over reacting (they are only putting criminals in those camps), or believe any evidence not from the sources you might expect is fake.

    And honestly, I don’t push at all, because I’m going to change zero minds and I’ve got enough cortisol in my life already. I prefer to just pretend those people aren’t in my circle when I can.

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      2 days ago

      I’m a naturally opinionated, confrontational, and accusatory person, so it’s hard to not hold my R-voter circle accountable, especially when they not only won’t condemn what’s going on, but they defend it, deflect, and try to gaslight. I keep wondering how bad things have to get for them to finally admit something’s wrong, but at the same time I’m hoping I’m the one who’s wrong and things are only going to be a little bad. I’d much rather have been wrong and laughed at later than to be right about what’s on the horizon.

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        12 hours ago

        Due to events since then - namely Cory Booker - if you have any kind of regular dialogue with those folks that you’d be comfortable sharing, I’d love to know if it penetrated at all in your opinion.

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        2 days ago

        I’d much rather have been wrong and laughed at later than to be right about what’s on the horizon.

        Dude, I firmly believe that if we appear wrong later, it means that things happened openly or behind the scenes that stopped it, not that we were wrong.

        I would sincerely like to see another post from you if/when you cross that line where even the die hards (or for that matter even the rank and file Rs) start to think something smells.

        but they defend it, deflect, and try to gaslight.

        This is a huge part of why I just don’t engage. I can handle protracted, passionate disagreement. I can’t handle deflections, false equivalences and gaslighting. I cannot deal with that kind of thing like a rational adult, and then I get accused of being angry due to disagreement when it’s nothing of the sort.