Well, the problem imo are often cis men and it is hard to have a safe space with them. I’ve just experienced too much abusive behavior by them and men usually help each other out and therefore promote abusive behavior.
I am deeply sorry about the abuse you experienced and think it’s unfair to paint an entire gender in that light. My mom was incredibly abusive and I would never blame all women for that, just her as an individual.
Well, my mom is abusive, too. But cis men being abusive is something structural. That is the difference between the two.
And sure, I know that cis men are just people like everybody else and they also suffer from patriarchy. But in the same time they just don’t show any (or not enough) progress in emancipating themselves from their roles as men. I’m not against the humans that are cis men per se, but I would love to see manhood abolished and these same people to be free themselves. But I guess the problem is that most of them have so many privileges and perceive themselves as the default humans that they have a hard time reflecting upon their role and their privileges.
I would try to remember that we are in fact trying to form a safe space here which does include a number of cis men. I don’t want to invalidate your experiences at all, because some people are shitty people and as humans we tend to notice patterns, but your initial comment was rather callous toward people who haven’t done anything wrong.
That said, I appreciate this elaboration and clarification of your intent. When it’s always the same kind of people knocking you down, it can be hard not to make an immediate judgment of someone who has similar qualities and I can understand where you’re coming from even if I don’t agree. If every cat I ever met scratched me, the friendliest cat in the world is going to be viewed with suspicion. Just please try to remember that generalizations like that aren’t really nice to those they are directed at.
Well, the problem imo are often cis men and it is hard to have a safe space with them. I’ve just experienced too much abusive behavior by them and men usually help each other out and therefore promote abusive behavior.
I am deeply sorry about the abuse you experienced and think it’s unfair to paint an entire gender in that light. My mom was incredibly abusive and I would never blame all women for that, just her as an individual.
Well, my mom is abusive, too. But cis men being abusive is something structural. That is the difference between the two.
And sure, I know that cis men are just people like everybody else and they also suffer from patriarchy. But in the same time they just don’t show any (or not enough) progress in emancipating themselves from their roles as men. I’m not against the humans that are cis men per se, but I would love to see manhood abolished and these same people to be free themselves. But I guess the problem is that most of them have so many privileges and perceive themselves as the default humans that they have a hard time reflecting upon their role and their privileges.
I would try to remember that we are in fact trying to form a safe space here which does include a number of cis men. I don’t want to invalidate your experiences at all, because some people are shitty people and as humans we tend to notice patterns, but your initial comment was rather callous toward people who haven’t done anything wrong.
That said, I appreciate this elaboration and clarification of your intent. When it’s always the same kind of people knocking you down, it can be hard not to make an immediate judgment of someone who has similar qualities and I can understand where you’re coming from even if I don’t agree. If every cat I ever met scratched me, the friendliest cat in the world is going to be viewed with suspicion. Just please try to remember that generalizations like that aren’t really nice to those they are directed at.