I support strict gun control laws, and also have my RPAL.
My question is what specific changes do they want, and what specific weakness does it address?
Are there deficiencies in our laws that could be improved, to reduce firearm injuries and deaths? Let’s have at 'em!
Are there specifc guns that are too easy to modify to full-auto? Don’t need 'em.
But if we’re going to start (continue) banning guns only because they look scary, then stop with the performative BS.
Gun violence in Canada is near exclusively committed with illegal firearms brought up from the states. The limits on long guns for people with PALs does nothing to curb the violence.
Also, lots of specific model gun prohibitions are literally based on how scary a gun looks and not anything to do with things like barrel length or caliber. The FN FAL was recently prohibited because you can fix a bayonet, like all those pesky criminals are doing these days…
The sks often has a bayonet and is one of the most common guns in Canada.
Really pushing the disinformation and gaslighting here. Pearl clutching about your weapons designed to kill others under the guise of “hobbies”
Illegal guns are sold from legal owners to criminals. So no they’re not “well intentioned individuals”
There was also an incident where a father used his legal gun to kill his wife, father in law then himself. Wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t allowed access to guns in the first place.
“78.3% of gun-related domestic homicides in Canada were committed with firearms in the legal possession of licensed owners.”
Your source was published in 1995. A lot of regulation has changed over the last 30 years. I wonder what the numbers look like now.
Am I misunderstanding, or is the article you linked from 1995? I have a feeling a lot has changed with fireams related homicides since then. Especially with the advent of firearms being built out of a bunch of disparate parts.
Few recent Canadian mass shooters had criminal records of any kind, for example, and most obtained their weapons legally (although the Portapique killer did not).
the remaining 20 to 25 per cent of firearm deaths that are not suicide, the data is unclear but appears to follow the Canadian homicide pattern of 31 per cent resulting from family violence. The presence of a gun in a household struggling with heavy drinking, domestic violence and other stresses is inherently intimidating and deadly.
The family violence crisis is not just about deaths; it’s also about the health of the home environment. Thousands of Canadian women and children are forced to seek shelter from violence and abuse every day, while many more live in fear.
The northern and rural regions of all provinces experience significantly higher homicide rates than southern and metropolitan regions.
This tracks with data from the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians showing significantly higher gun ownership in northern, rural and Indigenous communities.
So although the overall picture is complex, the dominant themes are remarkably clear. Given the driving patterns of self-harm and gun violence, a phased-in reduction of easy access to weapons is likely to yield significant results over time. This isn’t controversial, as it’s worked for many other countries for decades.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/06/02/opinion/surprising-truth-about-gun-deaths-canada
Thank you for providing this information. Your previous link really didn’t paint the image I think you wanted to.
I think a lot of the disconnect woth people is that a lot of Canadians are faced with what they perceive as a lot more grave issues endangering peoples lives. And it differs between provinces and even as your links state municipal vs rural areas.
I think because we don’t have the constant threat of mass shootings the likes of the USA, those in areas less impacted by fire arm deaths are more apathetic. Or maybe just view it as we’ve done enough.
Obviously governments should have the capacity to deal with multiple issues at once, but I think people really get caught up in the “why are you worrying about this, when X thing is way more dangerous.”. It might come off as whataboutism, and often times it can be, but I think k its just as easy to say that person hasn’t been as broadly effected by guns and someone else.
Why not ban alcohol instead?
Here’s more whataboutism. Stay on the topic at hand.
PolySeSouvient’s letter, dated last Friday, is copied to others, including Provost, current Public Safety Minister David McGuinty and Rachel Bendayan, a former associate public safety minister.
The group says the new public safety minister should be directed to:
— build an incentive package in the buyback program to encourage early compliance;
— conduct meaningful consultations with stakeholders before draft bills, regulations, directives and public education campaigns are made public;
— immediately launch an investigation into the classification of the SKS, a rifle that has been used in mass and police shootings, to find a solution that protects public safety and respects Indigenous rights to hunt;
— eliminate all loopholes, exemptions and exceptions related to magazine capacity.
We should hastily implement every recommendation.
These assholes. They can stop making us American. We have a much different relationship with guns and American influence can fuck off out of our country and so can all you promoting it.
A prominent gun control group is urging Prime Minister Mark Carney to swiftly implement Liberal election promises on firearms and avoid the foot-dragging that left many pledges under the previous government unfulfilled.
PolySeSouvient includes students and graduates of Montreal’s École Polytechnique, where a gunman killed 14 women in 1989.
In 2023, half (49%) of firearm-related violent crime involved the presence of a handgun, followed by a firearm-like weapon or an unknown type of firearm (31%), a rifle or shotgun (15%) and a fully automatic or sawed-off shotgun (4.7%). In the provinces, handguns were most common in urban areas while rifles or shotguns, and firearm-like weapons or unknown types of firearms, were more common in rural areas.
Shooting was the leading cause of death among homicide victims in 2023, accounting for nearly four in ten (38%) of all homicides. More than half (56%) of all shooting homicides were caused by handguns.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2025001/article/00002-eng.htm
The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today announced the national freeze on the sale, purchase, and transfer of handguns comes into effect. From now on, people cannot buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada, and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country
Dated October 21, 2022
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2022/10/21/freezing-market-handguns
Don’t fall for the conservative framing of the issue. If you read the article, these are all sensible commitments that they are requesting, that essentially enshrine further things that actually responsible gun owners would be taking for granted.
Realistically, if this is about closing loop holes, making laws more cut and dry, sure this probably won’t really effect responsible gun owners.
Here is what they are actually asking for:
https://polysesouvient.ca/Documents_2025/MAIL_25_05_09_Letter_Carney_PostElections.pdf
How many Canadians are killed by gun violence? May 8, 2024 by Wayne Fletcher
In Canada, approximately 250 to 300 people are killed by gun violence each year.
(https://thegunzone.com/how-many-canadians-are-killed-by-gun-violence/)
Motor Vehicle Fatalities on the Rise in Canada – 2024 Data Study Overall Findings:
After three decades of decline, the number of motor vehicle fatalities in Canada went up by 6% in 2022
The number of fatalities is estimated to have reached 2,004 in 2023 and is projected to increase to 2,045 (+2% YoY) by the end of 2024
(https://www.preszlerlaw.com/blog/motor-vehicle-fatalities-on-rise-in-canada/)
Fuck cars too, buddy
Are you making some kind of weird whataboutist argument here? Road safety and gun safety are not mutually exclusive.
They’re not mutually exclusive, but cars are much more dangerous than guns. Car violence needs to be addressed before gun violence.
Why not at the same time?
Solving car violence is achievable without stripping rights and inviting government tyranny. Solving gun violence is not.
Safety regulations does not equate to “government tyranny”
That’s the same argument made against seat belts, masks and vaccines.
Now you’re saying something different from before. Before you were talking about the order in which the two problems should be addressed, now you’re telling about whether each one should be addressed and how. You’re not discussing in good faith.
Hopefully Carney is smart enough to tell them to go pound sand
The group in the article is anti-gun.
Hopefully he actually listens to women who face a disproportionate amount of gun violence even from the legal ones.
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Here’s the pro-gun user ignoring the evidence on the topic again.
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Pot - kettle.
The Liberals are never going to come for my guns because I don’t own military style guns and cosplay as a Gravy Seal.
Watch the gun-owners quickly do damage control in the comments.
The Conservatives use gun control as a wedge issue. Carney was quick to drop the carbon tax because it was politically toxic - it isn’t beyond the pale to imagine he’d do the same with gun control. 🤷♂️
It’s the Liberals who have been fiddling with gun laws for 30 years anytime they need a bump in the polls.
Yup. It’s a wedge issue. Politicians push on them because to get votes or donations.
That’s not a statement of fact. That’s your personal pro-gun violence bias speaking.
If Canada ever reaches a point like the USA where the government is unlawfully abducting people from their homes, you may understand why some people think common people should be able to own guns.
We unfortunately live in a world where guns exist and they can be used for oppression. People stand a better chance against armed opression when they themselves are armed.
Not every gun owner is out here using guns as an extension of power, most just use them for hobbies and huntings. And many express that they would fight against nazi level opression if it comes down to it.
And what have the American people done with their guns in the face of tyranny exactly?
It’s just a LARP.
We unfortunately live in a world where guns exist and they can be used for oppression. People stand a better chance against armed opression when they themselves are armed.
That’s nonsense because gun ownership actually increases the likelihood of death for the owner. Not very self protective is it…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/07/guns-handguns-safety-homicide-killing-study
This article is about handguns. The vast majority of legal guns in Canada are shotguns and rifles. Handguns are already severely restricted in Canada and it is impossible to get one legally now unless your job requires one, such as law enforcement, game wardens, or certain security companies.
