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      Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You’re not going to get any Republicans voting for that.

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        And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.

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          Republicans: Democrats want to shut down the government??

          No. Wait. Stop.

          See, your problem is in thinking Republicans want a functioning government.

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            Some of them don’t even want a functioning world and are actively trying to end it for all of us to bring the day of the rapture closer

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              My term for those is “Left Behind Christians”. There’s a lot of them. Worse than Jihadists.

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              Seven Mountain Cult is honestly terrifying if not for the simple fact of how effectively they’ve infiltrated governance and actively campaign for the end of the world.

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                I’d never heard of this before and looked it up. That’s concerning. I don’t have enough time right now to look deep enough to find which politicians are a part of it, however. Are there any in the House of Representatives or the Senate you can know of?

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                  I don’t think there’s any members of government who are members of a church that espouses the Seven Mountain Mandate, but prettyuch the entire “Freedom Caucus” is very buddy buddy with a lot of influential people from Seven Mountain Mandate churches.

                  These churches also routinely are seen with celebrities such as Justin Bieber, the Kardashian, etc.

                  They would also tell you they’re not an apocalypse cult and they just want to “bring about the second coming”

                  But like, that’s an apocalypse cult. If you want to end the world, you’re an apocalypse cult.

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            Seriously, if the GOP could have excuses to call for budget cuts and ending programs, and they didn’t even have to be the ones to come up with ways to stop the government from functioning in the first place? A dream come true for them

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          I didn’t realize you were talking about Republicans at first because of how bad they’ve gotten. I don’t even question it anymore with how normalized their evil policies have gotten.

          I think they were a lot better at covering this up until 2010 when the Tea Party took hold. Since then they’ve been more and more blatant about it, culminating in totally taking off the mask in 2016. It seems to me that beforehand, the party elite carefully curated both their image and policies to have plausible deniability. With them losing control to the inmates however, the party hasn’t just thrown away their cover, they’ve decided to go for even worse policies.

          It’s like they realized their followers are a cult, and they’re curious to see if anything they do goes too far to them. It’s such a pathetic state of affairs.

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          Almost as wild as the turkies actually voting for Christmas.

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          I think most republican voters simply care more about “other people can’t get a free thing that I had to pay for” or “I don’t want universal healthcare because I’m healthy and I don’t need it”. Which are both incredibly selfish mindsets. The GOP knows about these mindsets and does everything they can to encourage them.

          I think they now are so far gone that they find it easier to convince voters by spreading propaganda than it is to win people with good policies. I think part of it is that on the policy front, there’s stiff competition. But on the identity politics front, it’s not even a competition. The GOP is massively better at propaganda and identity politics. They know they’re better at it, which is why they’ve leaned so heavily into it while also having so little else to offer. Fixing problems often gets in the way of profit, so they don’t have an incentive to actually fix many problems (at least not for normal people).

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        Well then perhaps the Democrats ought to engage in progressive theatrics as fascist theatrics seem to be effective.