Windows: Runs update 20+ minutes on shutdown and 20+ minutes on next startup, requiring multiple reboots: nothing has changed.
Linux: Runs update for 5-10 minutes when you want it to update, changes basically the whole OS and adds a metric shit-ton of features and doesn’t even care if you reboot or not.
Longest update for me was ~5 minutes in W10, mostly new definitions for the Defender and security patches. You can consult the property of the updates in the M$ page and also undo the last update, if you want. Memes of Windows are nice, but this one was valid 15 years ago, back then it was true that you could die in an update, but not now.
On powerful PC’s, yeah, my home PC is a rather powerful one and it would take me around a couple minutes to update.
However, I remember two years ago having to use Windows 10 on a school PC (which was a crappy thinkpad) and it took around 1.5 hours to update after I did the mistake of arriving too early and deciding to update the laptop as “might as well, got nothing better to do”, then not being able to do anything for 1 hour.
Though admittedly, the laptop wasn’t updated for a while (guessing around half a year?) so it probably was catching up to updates.
School PCs is quite a broad range. Could be a failing district with 10 year old computers on 5400 rpm drives which a Linux machine would also run slowly on.
You underestimate just how crazy clean Linux is. For a while I ran Debian out of an USB 2.0 thumb drive on a machine that was already slow ten years prior – hardly a hickup. In-place updates didn’t even take more than 15 minutes (which, considering how slow my storage was, is great).
Not underestimating. This dudes not even taking into account how shitty a school spinning disk drive can be with how many hours they are on, how cheap they are, how many times they’ve been written to, etc. Im IT at a school I know how bad they get.
I have Linux running on a 10 year old machine with 5400 rpm drives, and it does just fine streaming video to multiple TVs at once… Helps that there are 5 of them configured as raid-5…
Well, 2 weeks after that happened, I asked my teacher if I could install Linux onto the PC and they agreed. Went for a minimalist arch setup since that’s what I’m familiar with already, and it worked fine. Updates were still somewhat slow but they’d only take around 1-2 minutes maximum, excluding the download times for packages, and it ran smoothly.
That being said, Windows 10 on that craptop was fine for browsing, and boot times weren’t too bad, only taking 30s on average. It’s just that updating the system and using VS (since we were forced to use it as IDE until I switched to Linux, at that point I just went with neovim) were two major pain points.
Can I forward all our users problems to you when I switch them to Linux?
Don’t forget, all have different hardware setup and different needs. So most likely would need different distros just to perform what they can now on Windows.
Maybe just install some SSD next time instead of complaining about Windows.
You misspelled a word. Let me correct that for you:
“This bad OS takes 3 more minutes to update completely, oh the horror”
Thank me later.
Just kidding. One thing that is unarguably better with Linux is, is the fact that you can update whenever you want and you can do it in the background while using your computer.
Windows: Runs update 20+ minutes on shutdown and 20+ minutes on next startup, requiring multiple reboots: nothing has changed.
Linux: Runs update for 5-10 minutes when you want it to update, changes basically the whole OS and adds a metric shit-ton of features and doesn’t even care if you reboot or not.
Longest update for me was ~5 minutes in W10, mostly new definitions for the Defender and security patches. You can consult the property of the updates in the M$ page and also undo the last update, if you want. Memes of Windows are nice, but this one was valid 15 years ago, back then it was true that you could die in an update, but not now.
On powerful PC’s, yeah, my home PC is a rather powerful one and it would take me around a couple minutes to update.
However, I remember two years ago having to use Windows 10 on a school PC (which was a crappy thinkpad) and it took around 1.5 hours to update after I did the mistake of arriving too early and deciding to update the laptop as “might as well, got nothing better to do”, then not being able to do anything for 1 hour.
Though admittedly, the laptop wasn’t updated for a while (guessing around half a year?) so it probably was catching up to updates.
School PCs is quite a broad range. Could be a failing district with 10 year old computers on 5400 rpm drives which a Linux machine would also run slowly on.
You underestimate just how crazy clean Linux is. For a while I ran Debian out of an USB 2.0 thumb drive on a machine that was already slow ten years prior – hardly a hickup. In-place updates didn’t even take more than 15 minutes (which, considering how slow my storage was, is great).
Not underestimating. This dudes not even taking into account how shitty a school spinning disk drive can be with how many hours they are on, how cheap they are, how many times they’ve been written to, etc. Im IT at a school I know how bad they get.
I have Linux running on a 10 year old machine with 5400 rpm drives, and it does just fine streaming video to multiple TVs at once… Helps that there are 5 of them configured as raid-5…
Well, 2 weeks after that happened, I asked my teacher if I could install Linux onto the PC and they agreed. Went for a minimalist arch setup since that’s what I’m familiar with already, and it worked fine. Updates were still somewhat slow but they’d only take around 1-2 minutes maximum, excluding the download times for packages, and it ran smoothly.
That being said, Windows 10 on that craptop was fine for browsing, and boot times weren’t too bad, only taking 30s on average. It’s just that updating the system and using VS (since we were forced to use it as IDE until I switched to Linux, at that point I just went with neovim) were two major pain points.
Great, now install Tiny11.
Which is a minimalist Windows 11, and see how much faster that runs as well.
Or did you think there was only one version of Windows OSes?
Maybe it was in deep freeze? I know the schools in my area do that for any computer the students use incase they fuck with it.
Can I forward our users to you when they want to work and need to wait 30-40 minutes before the stupid Windows update has completed?
Can I forward all our users problems to you when I switch them to Linux?
Don’t forget, all have different hardware setup and different needs. So most likely would need different distros just to perform what they can now on Windows.
Maybe just install some SSD next time instead of complaining about Windows.
Idk, it still takes Windows 10 much longer than I’d expect on my system. I wish it only took 5 minutes
First World problems
“This more complex OS takes 3 more minutes to update completely, oh the horror!”
It really is a first world problem, can’t deny that. Still though, it shouldn’t take that long to install.
Look at pacman on Arch, that thing installs packages so fast, the only meaningful factor for how long an update takes is your download speed
You misspelled a word. Let me correct that for you:
“This bad OS takes 3 more minutes to update completely, oh the horror”
Thank me later.
Just kidding. One thing that is unarguably better with Linux is, is the fact that you can update whenever you want and you can do it in the background while using your computer.
You forgot that they installed the Linux preacher assholeware in secret.