They don’t even want you to use the website I don’t think. They’ve even done experiments where they blocked people from using the mobile website. The more they want me to use their app, the more I want to avoid Reddit all together.

  • Landrin201@lemmy.ml
    13·
    2 years ago

    Just from using reddit, I can only really see a few ways for them to make money.

    1. Subscriptions/awards. Not many people do this, certainly not enough to keep the doors open.

    2. Advertisements

    3. Selling user data

    Let’s start with 2. The reason they re-designed the UI in both the app and the desktop version is because they need to create as much space as possible for them to put ads into- and still have it not be so annoying for the user that they stop using the site. Now, on the website they can still put adds on old.reddit, just not as many- so they haven’t come for that yet, because it isn’t draining nearly as much income as the mobile market. Their new mobile app does the same as the frontend redesign- it maximizes ad space, and also allows them to collect other user data such as location to sell to marketing agencies.

    ALL of the alternative Reddit clients (or at least, all I have used) have adblocker built into them. For some of them, you pay the app for that- a payment which is often less than Reddit Gold is, and is usually a one-time payment. And these apps hold the user data that can actually be sold, like location. So third-party apps disrupt all three of Reddit’s possible revenue streams by having people not pay for premium to hide ads, by blocking advertisements anyway and denying Reddit the ad revenue for them, and by keeping the user’s data away from Reddit.

    That’s why I think they made the API price so ridiculously high- it isn’t just meant to scare them away, it’s meant to be a reflection of what they feel they are losing in revenue from users using third party apps. If it was just about any one of the 3 points above, the rate would be much more reasonable- but it’s all 3.

    • Soullioness@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      2 years ago

      Thanks for the thorough and understandable response! You wouldn’t believe how many responses aren’t even a full sentence much less an explanation.

    • isdfoa@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      Couldn’t they have integrated ads as posts, then it’d show on any third part app. And I saw other ideas floating around about making third party app access a feature behind Reddit Premium. So many alternatives and they choose the most idiotic one

      • Ghil@lemmy.ml
        1·
        2 years ago

        Yes but the problem is tracking who sees and who clicks. The advertisers pay more for things like conversion rates and targeted advertisement. For that you need to be in control of who sees the ad, and a way to know if the user engaged with the content. All that I don’t think is possible with 3pps, unless they start playing ball and report all that data to Reddit.

    • SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.at
      1·
      2 years ago

      Can’t people request to block tracking with apps on iOS? I don’t have an iPhone myself but my impression is that the do not track applies to apps.