I am using duplicati and thinking of switching to Borg. What do you use and why?

  • Fryboyter@discuss.tchncs.de
    11·
    2 years ago

    There is no such thing as the objectively best solution. Each tool has advantages and disadvantages. And every user has different preferences and requirements.

    Personally, I am using Borg for years. And I have had to restore data several times, which has worked every time.

    In addition to Borg, you can also look at Borgmatic. This wrapper extends the functionality and makes some things easier.

    And if you want to use a graphical user interface, you can have a look at Vorta or Pika.

    • privsecfoss@feddit.dkOP
      2·
      2 years ago

      Agree. Should say ‘best for you’. Cool thanks. I know of Vorta which I intended of using. Gonna read up on the other ones.

    • TedvdB@feddit.nl
      1·
      2 years ago

      Oh I love borg backups and the ability to script it.

      I’m making encrypted backups of a lot of servers this way, including a Lemmy instance.

  • CjkOvPDwQW@lemmy.pt
    8·
    2 years ago

    Using borg backup, just because there are some nice frontends for the gnome ecosystem (when I am using gnome, I love to use gnome apps), and it has a nice cmd for scripting when using something else (using it on servers)

    • Yote.zip
      4·
      2 years ago

      You very much will. It’s easier than you’d think.

  • flux@beehaw.org
    7·
    2 years ago

    Kopia has served me great. I back up to my local Ceph S3 storage and then keep a second clone of that on a raid.

    Kopiahas good performance and miltiple hosts can back up tp it concurrently while preserving deduplication – unlike borgbackup.

    • aliens@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Kopia has been working great for me as well. It’s simple, versatile and reliable. I previously used Duplicati but kept running into jobs failing for no reason, backup configurations missing randomly and simple restores taking hours. It was a hot mess and I’m happy I switched.

      • Parsnip8904@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        I want to love kopia but the command line syntax feels unnatural to me. I don’t know why either. For the whole month I test drove it, I had to look up every single time how to do something. Contrast this with restic which is less featureful in some ways but a few days in it felt like I was just using git.

        • aliens@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          I never used the command line with Kopia besides starting it up in server mode and used the web based GUI to configure, it was pretty simple to get everything setup that way. You may want to give it another try using Kopia in that mode.

            • flux@beehaw.orgEnglish
              2·
              2 years ago

              You can use the web ui remotely.

              Personally I use it from command line, though, and my only complaint is that it’s too easy to start a backup you didn’t intend to… Buut if you’re careful about usong the kopia snapshot command then it’s fine.

              • Parsnip8904@beehaw.orgEnglish
                2·
                2 years ago

                Oh I thought the webui was only for server mode.

                I just quickly glanced through the manuals of both restic and kopia. I think my trouble with kopia is that its style feels kind of weird. I’m just not able to wrap my head around it well.

                kopia snapshot create /dir is shorter but more confusing than restic -r repo backup /dir

  • I_Am_Jacks_____@beehaw.org
    4·
    2 years ago

    I’ve been using restic. It has built-in dedup & encryption and supports both local and remote storage. I’m using it to back up to a local restic-server (pointing to a USB drive) and Backblaze B2.

    Restores for single or small sets of files is easy: restic -r $REPO mount /mnt Then browse through the filesystem view of your snapshots and copy just like any other filesystem.

  • derek@lemmy.one
    3·
    2 years ago
    • Btrfs for local system backups based on snapshots
    • Photoprism for photos
    • Syncthing for other media
    • flux@beehaw.org
      2·
      2 years ago

      You will reconsider calling strategy a backup should the filesystem get corrupted for whatever reason.

      I’ve tested my full system backup restore once with btrfs. Worked out fine.

      • derek@lemmy.one
        1·
        2 years ago

        Maybe Photoprism isn’t a backup strategy, but Syncthing for sure is, because you can have multiple backup units in it.

        I’m additionally use software RAID on one of devices, that receives Syncthing backups.

  • esm@beehaw.org
    3·
    2 years ago

    What problem are you trying to solve? Please think about that, and about your backup strategy, before you decide on any specific tools.

    For example, here are several scenarios that I guard against in my backup strategy:

    • Accidentally delete a file, I want to recover it quickly (snapshots);
    • Entire drive goes kablooie, I want my system to continue running without downtime (RAID)
    • User data drive goes kablooie, I want to recover (many many options)
    • Root drive goes kablooie, I want to recover (baremetal recovery tools)
    • House burns down or computer is damaged/stolen (offsite backups)
  • Yote.zip
    3·
    2 years ago

    I’ve used borg for a while and like it a lot. I would say your best option for pure linux is borg+borgmatic/vorta just because borg is battle-tested.

    If you run any other OSs and don’t mind a relative newcomer, I’ve found kopia to be easy to recommend to my windows friends. At this point kopia has been around long enough (~4 years of actual beta) that I think it’s safe to trust its integrity with personal data. It has all the important features from borg in a cross-platform solution, so it’s also a viable alternative for borg on linux if you don’t like borg’s frontends for whatever reason.

  • JohannesOliver@beehaw.org
    3·
    2 years ago

    Multiple. Locally I have Timeshift doing btrfs snapshots every so often. This is mostly to roll back to a snapshot if something breaks. I’ve never had to use it (and probably should).

    I use Pika backup every once in a while for a local backup to an external drive. Mostly because it’s easy to restore quickly.

    I have duplicacy doing backups to a cloud provider. I used to use duplicati for this, and it was fine - although I didn’t like that it seems to be forever in beta. I like that duplicacy can do deduplication between backups of different machines which most other solutions I’ve seen cannot. I like its selection of cloud providers vs Borg/Vorta and some others.

  • TDCN@feddit.dk
    2·
    2 years ago

    Rsync is great but if you want snapshots and file history rsnapshot works pretty well. It’s based on rsync but for every sync it creates shortcuts for existing files and only copies changes and new files. It saves space and remains transparent for the user. FreeFileSync is also amazing

  • Holzkohlen@feddit.de
    2·
    2 years ago

    I just use a script on an systemd timer. Well two scripts on two timers really - one running daily, one weekly for different data. It’s just a bunch of rsync commands copying folders to an hdd in my system and I reroute the output into a simple log file, mainly to verify if it ran at all. I am a bit paranoid about that. I can also run it manually whenever I want. Oh and some of the data I also rsync again to a smb cloud drive from Hetzner. I do not keep multiple versions and I delete remote files that have been deleted locally. It’s just a 1:1 copy.
    Oh and I use OpenSuse Tumbleweed so I have auto configured btrfs snapshots. Though I have not needed them yet and could not even say how I can use those. I figure that out once I need them.