• Aux@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What if you self host in AWS and Amazon decides to fuck you over? What if you decide to self from home and your ISP decides fuck you over? What if? So many what ifs… How do you even live in this world?

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      1 year ago

      When you use a cloud solution (and especially one with a vendor lock in like Amazon) then yeah, you are fucked there too and I’d question why you did it in the first place.

      If you have your own infrastructure - be it a server at home or whatever - then you can always just move it elsewhere, get some other ISP, whatever. There is no lock-in. Inconvenience, sure, but you can migrate elsewhere. That’s just not true about all the other things mentioned, or the friction would be much higher.

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        1 year ago

        Have you actually used anything cloud? Because there’s literally no friction to move things around. Unless you decide to use proprietary features.

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          1 year ago

          With AWS especially there is a shitton of proprietary stuff. Most of the friction is in knowledge however; the cloud environments differ, are configured differently, have different limitations and caveats, etc. Someone who has only ever worked with AWS will have to learn a lot of things anew if they switch. Hell there’s a reason why “AWS engineer” is a dedicated role in some companies.

          Now, if you only manually set up some VMs and configure them like you would a regular server then sure, it’s easy to migrate. But when you are missing 99% of the features of the cloud environment are you actually using it?

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            1 year ago

            For me the purpose of the cloud is the ability to deploy my projects on rented infrastructure independently of the provider. Tools like Terraform and Kubernetes help with the abstraction of providers.

            As for proprietary features I prefer to use open source alternatives like Supabase, which I then can deploy to any cloud and migrate between clouds if needed.

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              1 year ago

              Well then you aren’t probably taking advantage of most of the stuff AWS offers and is actually really good for. Which isn’t really criticism, but then I wouldn’t really call it cloud? It’s more like just infrastructure as a service.

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                1 year ago

                Infrastructure as a service is literally the definition of a cloud. Everything is just bells and whistles.